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 Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:08pm |
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There is little reason to carry a handgun on you in most places
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:08pm |
Nuclear wrote:
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Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
lol...it's a little offtrack. To your original point-I feel no less safe without a handgun. It's a right that I defend, but one that I'll rarely excercise. There is little reason to carry a handgun on you in most places (read:most).
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when your in downtown Detroit, you want a gun.Same goes for up north and such, personally i wouldn't carry everyday all overt with me, only if i planned to go somewhere, i don't think its really smart to ALWAYS carry.
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I've been all through Detroit, and no...I don't feel like I need a gun, because I don't let overgeneralizations scare me.
Edited by Dune - 06 September 2007 at 5:09pm
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:09pm |
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
Same here, im glad i've never had to "defend myself" with a gun. What would have to happen for you to defend yourself with a gun? Get one pulled on you?
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:10pm |
Dune wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
lol...it's a little offtrack. To your original point-I feel no less safe without a handgun. It's a right that I defend, but one that I'll rarely excercise. There is little reason to carry a handgun on you in most places (read:most).
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when your in downtown Detroit, you want a gun.Same goes for up north and such, personally i wouldn't carry everyday all overt with me, only if i planned to go somewhere, i don't think its really smart to ALWAYS carry.
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I've been all through Detroit, and no...I don't feel like I need a gun, because I don't let overgeneralizations scare me. |
Having been through there is not enough, you have to have lived in the area, and know the place, a lot of people think its overrated for crime, but its not. Especially at night.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:11pm |
Dune wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
lol...it's a little offtrack. To your original point-I feel no less safe without a handgun. It's a right that I defend, but one that I'll rarely excercise. There is little reason to carry a handgun on you in most places (read:most).
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when your in downtown Detroit, you want a gun.Same goes for up north and such, personally i wouldn't carry everyday all overt with me, only if i planned to go somewhere, i don't think its really smart to ALWAYS carry.
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I've been all through Detroit, and no...I don't feel like I need a gun, because I don't let overgeneralizations scare me. |
I think if you bring a gun into bad areas you are asking for violence.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:11pm |
evillepaintball wrote:
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There is little reason to carry a handgun on you in most places
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The desert eagle-the ultimate compensator.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:12pm |
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:13pm |
little devil wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
Same here, im glad i've never had to "defend myself" with a gun. What would have to happen for you to defend yourself with a gun? Get one pulled on you? |
A clearly deranged person running at you with a crowbar or something of the likes or a knife. But you don't just pull the gun and go bam, if you have time(you should make time) And you think they intend to hurt you, announce you have a gun, if they continue, show the gun, make sure you tell them you will use it, if it continues, maybe put a round into the ground, if they continue and are close, shoot them. Don't just be like : OMGZ BANG BANG
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:17pm |
Nuclear wrote:
little devil wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
Same here, im glad i've never had to "defend myself" with a gun. What would have to happen for you to defend yourself with a gun? Get one pulled on you? |
A clearly deranged person running at you with a crowbar or something of the likes or a knife.
But you don't just pull the gun and go bam, if you have time(you should make time) And you think they intend to hurt you, announce you have a gun, if they continue, show the gun, make sure you tell them you will use it, if it continues, maybe put a round into the ground, if they continue and are close, shoot them.
Don't just be like : OMGZ BANG BANG
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do u get people running at you with crowbars and knives all the time?
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:18pm |
Nuclear wrote:
little devil wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
Same here, im glad i've never had to "defend myself" with a gun. What would have to happen for you to defend yourself with a gun? Get one pulled on you? |
A clearly deranged person running at you with a crowbar or something of the likes or a knife.
But you don't just pull the gun and go bam, if you have time(you should make time) And you think they intend to hurt you, announce you have a gun, if they continue, show the gun, make sure you tell them you will use it, if it continues, maybe put a round into the ground, if they continue and are close, shoot them.
Don't just be like : OMGZ BANG BANG
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Wow...just wow...
This is what I meant in my long ass rant I posted a page earlier. You never pull a gun unless you're going to use it. Never.
And you for sure don't "put a round into the ground". If someone comes at you with a knife/and weapon, that's a situation where you make the on the spot judgement and make a firm decision. My belief has always been when the gun comes out, I pull the trigger. If I'm not sure the trigger needs to be pulled, the gun doesn't come out. Once you pull a gun with a case of indecision, you immediately endanger yourself and everyone around you.
In a high capacity pistol like mine, you have about 16 rounds. If someone takes that gun from you while you're making up your mind, you probably just died, and likely just killed a few other people, likely including officer.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:20pm |
Nuclear wrote:
Dune wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
lol...it's a little offtrack. To your original point-I feel no less safe without a handgun. It's a right that I defend, but one that I'll rarely excercise. There is little reason to carry a handgun on you in most places (read:most).
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when your in downtown Detroit, you want a gun.Same goes for up north and such, personally i wouldn't carry everyday all overt with me, only if i planned to go somewhere, i don't think its really smart to ALWAYS carry.
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I've been all through Detroit, and no...I don't feel like I need a gun, because I don't let overgeneralizations scare me.
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Having been through there is not enough, you have to have lived in the area, and know the place, a lot of people think its overrated for crime, but its not. Especially at night.
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Okay, let me rephrase that. After living in Detroit and spending enough time there to "qualify" me to speak on the topic. I still do not feel like I need a gun to go through it. I've felt threatened in smaller places than that, and I don't think by bringing a gun into the city, especially someone who has just a class under their belt, it's a wise decision.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:20pm |
stratoaxe wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
little devil wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
Same here, im glad i've never had to "defend myself" with a gun. What would have to happen for you to defend yourself with a gun? Get one pulled on you? |
A clearly deranged person running at you with a crowbar or something of the likes or a knife.
But you don't just pull the gun and go bam, if you have time(you should make time) And you think they intend to hurt you, announce you have a gun, if they continue, show the gun, make sure you tell them you will use it, if it continues, maybe put a round into the ground, if they continue and are close, shoot them.
Don't just be like : OMGZ BANG BANG
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Wow...just wow...
This is what I meant in my long ass rant I posted a page earlier. You never pull a gun unless you're going to use it. Never.
And you for sure don't "put a round into the ground". If someone comes at you with a knife/and weapon, that's a situation where you make the on the spot judgement and make a firm decision. My belief has always been when the gun comes out, I pull the trigger. If I'm not sure the trigger needs to be pulled, the gun doesn't come out. Once you pull a gun with a case of indecision, you immediately endanger yourself and everyone around you.
In a high capacity pistol like mine, you have about 16 rounds. If someone takes that gun from you while you're making up your mind, you probably just died, and likely just killed a few other people, likely including officer. |
Actually hearing / seeing that you aren't afraid to use the gun could make them think twice.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:21pm |
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how many times can you lives be endangered to think its a good idea to carry like really, if i was that scared to walk around without a gun i would get my ass outta there
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:21pm |
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^^(To Nuclear's Post) That is not valid evidence. There is conflicting arguments on the deterrent effects of guns.
Edited by Dune - 06 September 2007 at 5:22pm
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:22pm |
Nuclear wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
little devil wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
Same here, im glad i've never had to "defend myself" with a gun. What would have to happen for you to defend yourself with a gun? Get one pulled on you? |
A clearly deranged person running at you with a crowbar or something of the likes or a knife.
But you don't just pull the gun and go bam, if you have time(you should make time) And you think they intend to hurt you, announce you have a gun, if they continue, show the gun, make sure you tell them you will use it, if it continues, maybe put a round into the ground, if they continue and are close, shoot them.
Don't just be like : OMGZ BANG BANG
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Wow...just wow...
This is what I meant in my long ass rant I posted a page earlier. You never pull a gun unless you're going to use it. Never.
And you for sure don't "put a round into the ground". If someone comes at you with a knife/and weapon, that's a situation where you make the on the spot judgement and make a firm decision. My belief has always been when the gun comes out, I pull the trigger. If I'm not sure the trigger needs to be pulled, the gun doesn't come out. Once you pull a gun with a case of indecision, you immediately endanger yourself and everyone around you.
In a high capacity pistol like mine, you have about 16 rounds. If someone takes that gun from you while you're making up your mind, you probably just died, and likely just killed a few other people, likely including officer. |
Actually hearing / seeing that you aren't afraid to use the gun could make them think twice.
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and then when you hesitate to fire they might think again.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:22pm |
Dune wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
Dune wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
lol...it's a little offtrack. To your original point-I feel no less safe without a handgun. It's a right that I defend, but one that I'll rarely excercise. There is little reason to carry a handgun on you in most places (read:most).
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when your in downtown Detroit, you want a gun.Same goes for up north and such, personally i wouldn't carry everyday all overt with me, only if i planned to go somewhere, i don't think its really smart to ALWAYS carry.
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I've been all through Detroit, and no...I don't feel like I need a gun, because I don't let overgeneralizations scare me.
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Having been through there is not enough, you have to have lived in the area, and know the place, a lot of people think its overrated for crime, but its not. Especially at night.
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Okay, let me rephrase that. After living in Detroit and spending enough time there to "qualify" me to speak on the topic. I still do not feel like I need a gun to go through it. I've felt threatened in smaller places than that, and I don't think by bringing a gun into the city, especially someone who has just a class under their belt, it's a wise decision. |
I'm talking about people who have been shooting their entire life, and gone to classes other than just the CCW training, theres a good combat pistol shooting course many places have, 3 days , 700 rounds.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:24pm |
BradNowell wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
little devil wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
Same here, im glad i've never had to "defend myself" with a gun. What would have to happen for you to defend yourself with a gun? Get one pulled on you? |
A clearly deranged person running at you with a crowbar or something of the likes or a knife.
But you don't just pull the gun and go bam, if you have time(you should make time) And you think they intend to hurt you, announce you have a gun, if they continue, show the gun, make sure you tell them you will use it, if it continues, maybe put a round into the ground, if they continue and are close, shoot them.
Don't just be like : OMGZ BANG BANG
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Wow...just wow...
This is what I meant in my long ass rant I posted a page earlier. You never pull a gun unless you're going to use it. Never.
And you for sure don't "put a round into the ground". If someone comes at you with a knife/and weapon, that's a situation where you make the on the spot judgement and make a firm decision. My belief has always been when the gun comes out, I pull the trigger. If I'm not sure the trigger needs to be pulled, the gun doesn't come out. Once you pull a gun with a case of indecision, you immediately endanger yourself and everyone around you.
In a high capacity pistol like mine, you have about 16 rounds. If someone takes that gun from you while you're making up your mind, you probably just died, and likely just killed a few other people, likely including officer. |
Actually hearing / seeing that you aren't afraid to use the gun could make them think twice.
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and then when you hesitate to fire they might think again.
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how does that show hesitation.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:25pm |
Nuclear wrote:
Dune wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
Dune wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw.
I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
lol...it's a little offtrack. To your original point-I feel no less safe without a handgun. It's a right that I defend, but one that I'll rarely excercise. There is little reason to carry a handgun on you in most places (read:most).
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when your in downtown Detroit, you want a gun.Same goes for up north and such, personally i wouldn't carry everyday all overt with me, only if i planned to go somewhere, i don't think its really smart to ALWAYS carry.
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I've been all through Detroit, and no...I don't feel like I need a gun, because I don't let overgeneralizations scare me.
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Having been through there is not enough, you have to have lived in the area, and know the place, a lot of people think its overrated for crime, but its not. Especially at night.
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Okay, let me rephrase that. After living in Detroit and spending enough time there to "qualify" me to speak on the topic. I still do not feel like I need a gun to go through it. I've felt threatened in smaller places than that, and I don't think by bringing a gun into the city, especially someone who has just a class under their belt, it's a wise decision.
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I'm talking about people who have been shooting their entire life, and gone to classes other than just the CCW training, theres a good combat pistol shooting course many places have, 3 days , 700 rounds.
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Okay, so minus that 5% of the pistol carrying population, the rest I have very little confidence in.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:26pm |
Addressing your argument-
If a person is going to stop coming at you, they will stop when the gun comes out. At that point, if they retreat you immediately find an officer and report the incident.
However, again, if they don't stop when you pull the gun, then no words you say are going to deter them. You then pull the trigger, and don't stop until they hit the ground.
It seems that hollywood has really glamourized what is in essence murder to save your own life. There are no Mexican standoffs in real life, there are no holding the gun to each other's heads trying to talk the other person down. When a gun comes out, generally one person dies.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:27pm |
Nuclear wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
Nuclear wrote:
little devil wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Ok, I've never had any problem with the ccw in comparison to not having a ccw. I noticed that this arguement has changed direction drastically. My origional point was that in Canada, I have no reason to carry a handgun on me and that makes me happy. |
Same here, im glad i've never had to "defend myself" with a gun. What would have to happen for you to defend yourself with a gun? Get one pulled on you? |
A clearly deranged person running at you with a crowbar or something of the likes or a knife.But you don't just pull the gun and go bam, if you have time(you should make time) And you think they intend to hurt you, announce you have a gun, if they continue, show the gun, make sure you tell them you will use it, if it continues, maybe put a round into the ground, if they continue and are close, shoot them.Don't just be like : OMGZ BANG BANG |
Wow...just wow...
This is what I meant in my long ass rant I posted a page earlier. You never pull a gun unless you're going to use it. Never.
And you for sure don't "put a round into the ground". If someone comes at you with a knife/and weapon, that's a situation where you make the on the spot judgement and make a firm decision. My belief has always been when the gun comes out, I pull the trigger. If I'm not sure the trigger needs to be pulled, the gun doesn't come out. Once you pull a gun with a case of indecision, you immediately endanger yourself and everyone around you.
In a high capacity pistol like mine, you have about 16 rounds. If someone takes that gun from you while you're making up your mind, you probably just died, and likely just killed a few other people, likely including officer. |
Actually hearing / seeing that you aren't afraid to use the gun could make them think twice. |
Are you serious?
I honestly hope you don't have a ccw because if so, the lessons didn't do you any good.
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