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StormyKnight wrote:  You do not shoot to kill, you shoot to STOP.  If you go into court and testify that you shot somebody to kill them, you're stringing yourself up for a murder charge.

I'm going to have to call shens on your legal theory there...

StormyKnight wrote: Wrong.  You do not shoot to kill, you shoot to STOP.  If you go into court and testify that you shot somebody to kill them, you're stringing yourself up for a murder charge.

I'd say stop and kill are pretty interchangeable words in this discussion. As I said before, I'm no expert, but a double tap to the chest with the right ammunition will take down just about anybody, but you stand a good chance of a lethal hit to a vital organ-namely your lungs. Bullets are made to kill, so in technicality (and in court), anytime you fire one or more into a person, you've shot to kill.

Of course, you're absolutely right, you never give the impression of premeditated murder. That's what the court's going to try and throw at you in any case like this-they'll do their best to prove you could have prevented/avoided the escalation, or that you were itching to shoot somebody in the first place.

I'd caution alot of the younger people on my side of the debate to be careful-you go around talking smack about your .44 tucking in your truck, and how you're ready and willing to kill if necessary, and those words will come back to haunt you if you ever use lethal force against another human being. When you kill in self-defense, you walk the line of murder the whole way.

have you read any of stratoaxe's posts. THERE IS NO WARNING SHOT!!!! You shoot to kill only when necessary.  Guns are made to kill people not negotiate.

Wrong.  You do not shoot to kill, you shoot to STOP.  If you go into court and testify that you shot somebody to kill them, you're stringing yourself up for a murder charge.

Just as an experiment Nuclear, I'm assuming you've got at least one pistol around you can shoot, take it out and fire it like normal from your prominent hand. Notice that if you've shot even a few clips out of a gun with that hand, you're arm automatically adjusts to the recoil and brings your front sight back down.

Now, switch hands and fire a round off. You'll probably notice that your entire arm has a jello sensation, and unless you've been shooting for years, you'll end up jerking your shots way off to the side of that arm. You'll then have to recover from the side.

If you turn the gun sideways, it pulls the recoil towards your good arm. Let me simplify this-I'm right handed. When I fire offhand from the left hand, it pulls my second shot way up in the air and to the left. If I turn the gun sideways, it pulls it straight to the right, and back towards me. For alot of people, the latter is far easier to deal with in a situation where multiple shots are needed.