Hope this catches on...

You guys are all missing the big issue here.  Police should be violently opposing this law.

With crooks now forced to wear fitting pants, the police are going to have to return to exercizing - in order to keep up with the crooks that will no longer simply fall down while trying to run away.

Everybody knows that baggy pants, like crack and HIV, were originated by the CIA to keep the blacks in their place.   Now these Loosiana chumps have gone and messed it up.

I think alot of you are completely missing Linus' point...

It's illegal to investigate (or whatever legal term you want to use) a civilian without proper cause. "Silly" laws like these allow officers more room to question people. There are lots of laws that alot of people don't realize even exist because officers don't use them on a daily basis, but they exist for the simple fact that sometimes officers need a reason to investigate their suspicions, but do not have that reason.

Setting that completely aside, whether you like it or not certain cultural trends set you apart as being more likely to be involved in certain types of crimes.

 

stratoaxe wrote: I think alot of you are completely missing Linus' point... It's illegal to investigate (or whatever legal term you want to use) a civilian without proper cause. "Silly" laws like these allow officers more room to question people. There are lots of laws that alot of people don't realize even exist because officers don't use them on a daily basis, but they exist for the simple fact that sometimes officers need a reason to investigate their suspicions, but do not have that reason. Setting that completely aside, whether you like it or not certain cultural trends set you apart as being more likely to be involved in certain types of crimes.

This is as bad as during the McCarthy era when people with guitars were allowed to be investigated for being communists.

I know what he is talking about but its none the less is stupid I mean as Linus said some profiling is in being a police officer obviously but I think this is over the line and is only gonna cause problems. Profiling will become more predominant in police work Just gives more reason to pull over the African American in a Porsche etc. car or stop the teenager with baggy clothes walking down the road. Now sometimes this could work but it's stupid. 

Linus wrote: USAF... show me where in the Constitution it says profiling wasn't allowed. I have been unable to locate it.

Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments.

The first and fourteenth do it too and I was merely making an example strato.

Susan Storm wrote: Linus wrote: USAF... show me where in the Constitution it says profiling wasn't allowed. I have been unable to locate it. Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments.

Uhh.. no. Nothing mentions profiling.

Unlawful searches and seizures... a frisk is not a a search. But if there is probable cause as to a law being broken, and a search does take place, it is no longer unlawful.

Unlawful would be a cop walking down the street, seeing you (and you doing NOTHING wrong at all) and he reaches in your pockets.


14th, due process and equal protection. Again, nothing about profiling.

Due process = court proceedings.

Equal protection = allowing all races to the same rights.

susan wrote: So, because my pants don't fit tightly around my waste, I (a well-to-do white kid) am more likely to do, or be caught with, drugs?

I'll use my old home town as an example.

The whole area was mainly well to do white people

wikipedia search of Lake Orion wrote: The racial makeup of the village was 97.79% White, 0.26% African American

The median income for a household in the village was $51,311, and the median income for a family was $71,250

Pretty well to do if you ask me.


But out of 2600 students at my highschool, MANY had done drugs. No, I don't have numbers, you will have to take my word for it.


Just because you're rich and white doesn't mean you're immune from the law.

Edited by Linus - 15 August 2007 at 1:25am

1st             
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment

14th            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_Uni ted_States_Constitution

Read section 1 of the 14th put those together and what do you get N-O P-R-O-F-I-L-I-N-G!!!!

Thank you come again.

It doesn't say it you gotta read and understand it maybe? Or should I spell it out again.

Freedom of speech the clothes you where and you gotta keep it equal gangsta