My sister got busted with marijuana and..

Man Bites Dog wrote: choopie911 wrote: Man Bites Dog wrote: I routinely get people arrested for smoking weed. It's fun. I don't get that. I don't care if people smoke it or not, that is 100% their choice, but why call it in on other people? Legality is a terrible moral compass, as I'm sure you're smart enough to know. Because it is my job. I don't let my opinions on it get in the way.

OMG.  Whale/TKD/MBD isn't a rebel anymore; he's become the man.

Man Bites Dog wrote: Its like someone said "all you need to do to stay in housing and not catch crap from the university is not press this red button." I would not feel bad for anyone who went mashing on the red button.

I really like this analogy.  (I'm probably going to steal it for my own use in the future.)




Edited by Mack - 24 July 2007 at 1:18pm

DBibeau855 wrote: Mehs wrote: Man Bites Dog wrote: choopie911 wrote: Man Bites Dog wrote: I routinely get people arrested for smoking weed. It's fun. I don't get that. I don't care if people smoke it or not, that is 100% their choice, but why call it in on other people? Legality is a terrible moral compass, as I'm sure you're smart enough to know. Because it is my job. I don't let my opinions on it get in the way. I know you're doing your job, but the people you're busting will have that on their record the rest of their lives, and it can negatively impact them greatly.  They may now have a lot more trouble getting into a serious career (which is most likely why they are there in the first place...), along with various other problems that may follow, they may even get kicked out of college for smoking (depending on campus rules, ect.), and if THAT happens, then I have no idea how you can rat people out.  That's just terrible. Well if they have that much at stake... Dont get caught?

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drugs are bad mmmmkay.pics of said sister and friend?

Enos Shenk wrote: RoboCop wrote: but the law is there to protect us from making dumb decisions. That is hands down the worst description of law Ive ever seen. I dont need protection from myself, and neither do you. Law should only exist to protect you from the malicious actions of others. PERIOD.

Enos hit the nail on the head here.  The original purpose of laws, and the constitution was to define individual rights and protect individuals from the actions (malicious or not) of others.  Unfortunately, what has happened is the that the law has burgeoned into a tool for getting money from others when someone gets their little feelings hurt and protecting us from our own stupidity.

Example:  I always wear a seatbelt and when I used to ride motorcycles I always wore a helmet.  (Heck, I even wear a bicycle helmet when I bike.)  However, I don't think it should be anyone elses business whether I do any of the above or not.  But seatbelt and helmet laws are quite universal now. 

One justification is that it protects us from ourselves, but if I want to be a dumbass, I should have that right as long as I don't endanger anyone else.  (The ultimate example of the stupidity of protecting people from themselves has got to be the city laws that limit the amount of trans-fats that can be served in foods in restaurants.  People know it's bad for them, if they want to eat it the consequences should be their responsibility.)

The second justification for "nanny" laws is the burden that is placed upon society by those whose stupidity renders them unable to care for themselves:  The simple solution here is to not "reward" idiotic, life-altering choices with free lifetime care at the expense of others.  If you want to ride without a helmet or seatbelt that's fine, just tell your insurance company and pay higher premiums.  Lied to the insurance company about it did you; wow, I guess that voids their contract with you.  (Or significantly decreases their financial responsibility towards you.) 

The answer is a combination of personal responsibility and realizing that no one has a guaranteed right to go through life unoffended.

Of course, legalizing drugs could have unintended consequences.  It would probably free up the courts and jails for more important uses because non-violent offenders/recreational users would be removed from the system.  Some studies indicate that drug use would not increase as a result.  The overall usage percentages now are not significantly different from before everything started getting delegalized near the beginning of the twentieth century.  On the other hand, we could end up with public parks that become completely unusable like the ones overseas because they are littered with users and their debris.  If recreational drugs became a business (I'm against the government providing them; if people want them they can use their own money, not my tax dollars), it would have to be regulated and taxed.  There would also still be a certain percentage of users who would get so addicted that they would turn to crime to support their habit.  Law enforcement would be hampered in dealing with these because they would be limited to dealing with their specific crime rather than being able to use possession as a lever for investigations.

Sorry I went so long; end rant/ramble.

youm0nt wrote: drugs are bad mmmmkay.

I would like to make it clear that the attitude of exuberant authority that Linus shows is not one I carry with me on the job.

I am not enforcing the rules for show, I am not making a spectacle of it, on the contrary, I try to keep everything as peaceful as possible.

Also, I treat everyone as equals, and try my hardest to enforce the rules equally amongst everyone.

I am not doing anything because "ITS THE LAW," I am doing it because it's my job, I like getting paid, and I understand that things like weed becomes a liability for the university.

choopie911 wrote: So, alot of people in this thread seem to think: 1) If something is illegal, it's immoral 2) If something is illegal, it's illegal for a good reason

I am going to disagree with you there.

Everything I have seen in this thread so far (For the exception of Linus probably) is not bashing on weed itself, saying weed is immoral, or saying that it is good weed is illegal.

All that has been shown is a lack of sympathy for those who get busted doing it when they knew good and well it was illegal.

White o Light wrote: Man Bites Dog wrote: choopie911 wrote: So, alot of people in this thread seem to think: 1) If something is illegal, it's immoral 2) If something is illegal, it's illegal for a good reason I am going to disagree with you there. Everything I have seen in this thread so far (For the exception of Linus probably) is not bashing on weed itself, saying weed is immoral, or saying that it is good weed is illegal. All that has been shown is a lack of sympathy for those who get busted doing it when they knew good and well it was illegal. You never come to PBC anymore, you with us or against us!!?!?!!

I am still at college broski.

Nobody bothered to open up a port I can use to get to PBC, so I got blocked out.

LSD IS GOOD 4 ME !

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