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Originally posted by *Stealth* *Stealth* wrote:

Alright, srsly..What's an impressive size to you?

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bj-one thing....i noticed you posted a lot on this topic so i dont know if you ran into it yet or not, the spam filter, keeps you from posting alot, its stupid, but its life...to get around it just go back and edit posts, it'll be easier
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I actually have a great many gay friends (male and female). I think they've gravitated to me partly because I'm the only Christian Republican they've met who doesn't try to convert them in either category... (Though I do know several gay Christians as well.)

My only issue (and I've only really seen this with gay men) is how many of them are overly open with their sex lives... Like lurid details and such... And how willing SOME of them are to jump into the sack with other people. I really think they're doing themselves a disservice by not taking intimate relationships more seriously than that. But then, I often feel that way about hetero men who are "just trying to get laid" also.

You've got to find your own way. I'll be totally honest in saying that I'm not certain you're on the right path, but I also won't judge you for disagreeing with me... I think I stopped being arrogant enough to believe I know what's best for other people around 12 years ago.
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Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

bj-one thing....i noticed you posted a lot on this
topic so i dont know if you ran into it yet or not, the spam filter, keeps
you
from posting alot, its stupid, but its life...to get around it just go back
and
edit posts, it'll be easier

oh yes i've run into it haha.
i'll keep it in mind thanks.
i've been posting for a while here just under different names.
i used to be quite the trouble maker

Originally posted by SandMan SandMan wrote:

I actually have a great many gay friends (male and
female). I think they've gravitated to me partly because I'm the only
Christian Republican they've met who doesn't try to convert them in either
category... (Though I do know several gay Christians as well.)

My only issue (and I've only really seen this with gay men) is how many of
them are overly open with their sex lives... Like lurid details and such...
And how willing SOME of them are to jump into the sack with other
people. I really think they're doing themselves a disservice by not taking
intimate relationships more seriously than that. But then, I often feel that
way about hetero men who are "just trying to get laid" also.

You've got to find your own way. I'll be totally honest in saying that I'm
not certain you're on the right path, but I also won't judge you for
disagreeing with me... I think I stopped being arrogant enough to believe
I know what's best for other people around 12 years ago.


This is very true. A lot of gay guys give us a bad name by being quite
premiscuous. I ride motorcycles and people automatically smack a label
on me as being one of those guys that weaves in and out of traffic at 100
mph.
I can tell you're obviously an older guy, and times really have changed.
Without sounding rude, you cant really know what path I'm on. I'm
18 years old and flying 1.3 million dollar airplanes for 4 times minimum
wage. I wouldn't change a single thing about my life.
I didn't choose to be gay, but I DID choose to make the best out of my life
and make my own path, and I think i'm doing an alright job.
I definately appreciate your mature approach to it and you're to be
commended for not trying to "change" me like a lot of ignorant anti-gay
individuals.

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Originally posted by bjelder33 bjelder33 wrote:

Originally posted by *Stealth* *Stealth* wrote:

Alright, srsly..What's an impressive size to you?

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I was not trying to be funny, I was actually interested.


but w/e.
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Originally posted by *Stealth* *Stealth* wrote:


Originally posted by bjelder33 bjelder33 wrote:

Originally posted by *Stealth* *Stealth* wrote:

Alright, srsly..What's an impressive
size to you?

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I was not trying to be funny, I was actually
interested.but w/e.

Oh hehe . Not sure I can dive into that one though.
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what do you think of the whole gays in the military thing and how they cant be open?

i filled out a form today (as did everyone else) just a checked a box thing really, but it was saying that i understood that if i in anyway say or suggest that im going to say/do anything homosexual, that i would be dropped from rotc and the army.

there was some other discrimination thing i had to check to, i forget what that was about though, maybe im thinking of the privacy act thing

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Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

what do you think of the whole gays in the
military thing and how they cant be open?


i filled out a form today (as did everyone else) just a checked a box
thing really, but it was saying that i understood that if i in anyway say or
suggest that im going to say/do anything homosexual, that i would be
dropped from rotc and the army.


there was some other discrimination thing i had to check to, i forget
what that was about though, maybe im thinking of the privacy act thing[/
P]


My personal opinion is that if we want to defend our country, then we
should be able to do so. You've probably seen the interviews, the only
people that actualy care about homosexuals being in the army are the
upper-ranking people who say it would be bad for troops morale. Fast
forward to an interview with most troops and they say that they couldn't
care less!
Why anybody would turn down someone willing to sacrafice their lives for
our country (when the ONLY thing "wrong" with them is that they are gay)
is completely beyond me.

Dont-ask don't-tell is alright... I think they should just forget the whole
thing and let gay people be themselves.

edit- good job on your army thing! better than I could do haha.

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though i am against homosexuality and gay marriage, i do believe gays should be treated as equals. The ones that are to open with their sexuality and lifestyle are annoying and i can understand why they give some gays a "bad name." I know one gay that goes to my school, (small school of 170) and hes probably the nicest person ive ever meet.

now a question. Why do you think you were born with your sexuality? For me i dont think its possible, i think its a desicion or choise in ones life to choose what their sexuality is. So what are you thoughts on that?



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How can you not like tits? A bigger concern of mine is this, why couldn't a lesbian and a gay guy hook up?
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What are your thoughts about lesbians? 
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Originally posted by Ghost-Rider Ghost-Rider wrote:

What are your thoughts about lesbians? 

I like them, they're often the nicest and sweetest people on earth.

Originally posted by blackdog144 blackdog144 wrote:

though i am against homosexuality and gay
marriage, i do believe gays should be treated as equals. The ones that are
to open with their sexuality and lifestyle are annoying and i can
understand why they give some gays a "bad name." I know one gay that
goes to my school, (small school of 170) and hes probably the nicest
person ive ever meet. now a question. Why do you think you were born
with your sexuality? For me i dont think its possible, i think its a desicion
or choise in ones life to choose what their sexuality is. So what are you
thoughts on that?

Do you think somebody CHOOSES to face the stuff that we go through
every single day?
Anti-gay stuff isn't over, its happening right now. My boyfriend and I can't
be together because his dad found out and said that my bf wasn't his son
anmore. His dad blamed me for his son being gay and forbid me from
seeing, talking to, or ever associating with him again.



Do you think I chose to be treated like that?

This isn't a sob story, I'm not expecting sympathy or anything lol. I'm a
big boy and can take care of myself. Just being brutally honest.

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How can you not like tits? A bigger concern of mine is this, why couldn't a lesbian and a gay guy hook up?

Too busy discussing interior design.
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Originally posted by bjelder33 bjelder33 wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider Ghost-Rider wrote:

What are your thoughts about lesbians? 

I like them, they're often the nicest and sweetest people on earth.

Originally posted by blackdog144 blackdog144 wrote:

though i am against homosexuality and gay
marriage, i do believe gays should be treated as equals. The ones that are
to open with their sexuality and lifestyle are annoying and i can
understand why they give some gays a "bad name." I know one gay that
goes to my school, (small school of 170) and hes probably the nicest
person ive ever meet. now a question. Why do you think you were born
with your sexuality? For me i dont think its possible, i think its a desicion
or choise in ones life to choose what their sexuality is. So what are you
thoughts on that?

Do you think somebody CHOOSES to face the stuff that we go through
every single day?
Anti-gay stuff isn't over, its happening right now. My boyfriend and I can't
be together because his dad found out and said that my bf wasn't his son
anmore. His dad blamed me for his son being gay and forbid me from
seeing, talking to, or ever associating with him again.





Do you think I chose to be treated like that?



How old are you guys? if your over 18 tell his dad to shove it.


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so about the tits thing?

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Originally posted by Razgriz Ghost Razgriz Ghost wrote:

so about the tits thing?


it was purposely ignored

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:


Originally posted by Razgriz Ghost Razgriz Ghost wrote:

How can you not like tits? A bigger concern of mine
is this, why couldn't a lesbian and a gay guy hook up?
Too busy
discussing interior design.

Not gonna lie, that got my funny bone

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dumb spam blocker made me double post...


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Originally posted by Ghost-Rider Ghost-Rider wrote:


Originally posted by bjelder33 bjelder33 wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider Ghost-Rider wrote:

What are your thoughts about
lesbians? 

I like them, they're often the nicest and sweetest people on earth.

Originally posted by blackdog144 blackdog144 wrote:

though i am against homosexuality and gay
marriage, i do believe gays should be treated as equals. The ones that are
to open with their sexuality and lifestyle are annoying and i can
understand why they give some gays a "bad name." I know one gay that
goes to my school, (small school of 170) and hes probably the nicest
person ive ever meet. now a question. Why do you think you were born
with your sexuality? For me i dont think its possible, i think its a desicion
or choise in ones life to choose what their sexuality is. So what are you
thoughts on that?

Do you think somebody CHOOSES to face the stuff that we go through
every single day?
Anti-gay stuff isn't over, its happening right now. My boyfriend and I can't
be together because his dad found out and said that my bf wasn't his son
anmore. His dad blamed me for his son being gay and forbid me from
seeing, talking to, or ever associating with him again.



Do you think I chose to be treated like that?
How old are you
guys? if your over 18 tell his dave to shove it.


Except his dad is paying for his college. So if I do see him, it will prevent
him from going to college. Student loans would be a no-go because he
wouldn't be able to find a cosigner.

At this point, when you truly love somebody, you want what is best for
them. And if it means me not talking to him, as miserable as it is, if it
keeps him in college then its worth it.
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Originally posted by bjelder33 bjelder33 wrote:

Without sounding rude, you cant really know what path I'm on.


That would be precisely why it's not appropriate for me to take an authoritative stance on your business... I only see from the eyes of one man and all that I "know" is admittedly colored by perspective and worldview.

From my perspective and from my life experience, it seems to me that gay people probably do choose (whether consciously or not is another question) to be gay. I think pretty much everyone, on one level or another, chooses their path on every level. I know, for myself, I've actively chosen pretty much every path I've ever followed.

But HERE's the kicker... And this is the most important thing I've said so far... Since we're not talking about me, it really doesn't matter what I think or what MY life experiences tell ME about ME. We're talking about YOU and I haven't spent a solitary moment living your life or walking in your shoes. So, while I reserve the right to suspect you've chosen more than you realize you've chosen, that point is entirely immaterial.

To answer to one comment you made... I am 32 years old, but life has aged me far beyond my years. I've been a United States Marine and have taken actions that cost people, both enemy and ally, their lives. I've been a SWAT-trained Officer with the Warrant Service Division for the State of Arkansas in affiliation with the Little Rock Police Department, a position that almost cost me my life as I became the first Arkansas Warrant Service Officer in the history of the department to be shot in the line of duty. One of my brothers shot himself in front of me, in my house, on June 6th, 2003. My wife (27 at the time) was diagnosed with Stage 3 (just shy of needing dialysis) kidney failure last year. The list goes on, but suffice to say I've got more than 32 years of stress on my shoulders.

Some people use life experience as an excuse to delude themselves into thinking they've seen enough to know what they're talking about. For my observation, the wise learn through experience that they've seen enough to realize how little they will ever truly know for certain... And how limited their view on the world is, seeing from the perspective of one in 6+ billion people on this dying earth.

So... The ONE thing I insist from people is respect for others. It's the one truth I hold to be immutable.

(I'll shut up now.)
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Originally posted by SandMan SandMan wrote:

Originally posted by bjelder33 bjelder33 wrote:

Without sounding rude, you cant
really know what path I'm on.


That would be precisely why it's not appropriate for me to take an
authoritative stance on your business... I only see from the eyes of one
man and all that I "know" is admittedly colored by perspective and
worldview.

From my perspective and from my life experience, it seems to me that
gay people probably do choose (whether consciously or not is another
question) to be gay. I think pretty much everyone, on one level or
another, chooses their path on every level. I know, for myself, I've actively
chosen pretty much every path I've ever followed.

But HERE's the kicker... And this is the most important thing I've said so
far... Since we're not talking about me, it really doesn't matter what I think
or what MY life experiences tell ME about ME. We're talking about YOU
and I haven't spent a solitary moment living your life or walking in your
shoes. So, while I reserve the right to suspect you've chosen more than
you realize you've chosen, that point is entirely immaterial.

To answer to one comment you made... I am 32 years old, but life has
aged me far beyond my years. I've been a United States Marine and have
taken actions that cost people, both enemy and ally, their lives. I've been
a SWAT-trained Officer with the Warrant Service Division for the State of
Arkansas in affiliation with the Little Rock Police Department, a position
that almost cost me my life as I became the first Arkansas Warrant Service
Officer in the history of the department to be shot in the line of duty. One
of my brothers shot himself in front of me, in my house, on June 6th,
2003. My wife (27 at the time) was diagnosed with Stage 3 (just shy of
needing dialysis) kidney failure last year. The list goes on, but suffice to
say I've got more than 32 years of stress on my shoulders.

Some people use life experience as an excuse to delude themselves into
thinking they've seen enough to know what they're talking about. For my
observation, the wise learn through experience that they've seen enough
to realize how little they will ever truly know for certain... And how limited
their view on the world is, seeing from the perspective of one in 6+
billion people on this dying earth.

So... The ONE thing I insist from people is respect for others. It's the one
truth I hold to be immutable.

(I'll shut up now.)


VERY well said.
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