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    Posted: 10 July 2007 at 11:23pm

So I stopped by a Saturn dealership today to test out a Redline.

Turns out there is a bit of a waitlist for Redlines, but they did have a regular Sky that I could tool around in a bit.  Fair enough.  Apparently they drive about the same, except for the engine.

But here's the issue:  The guy takes me on a test drive that consists ENTIRELY of straight lines.  The only turns had stopsigns attached.  He found me ONE little bitty s-turn, but that was it.  And then he had the audacity to tell me I was speeding.  As if I didn't know that.

So, having now test driven a Sky, I know that it is underpowered and that it is a pretty comfortable ride for a little sports car, but I know absolutely nothing about how it handles or corners.  Totally useless drive.

Seriously - if you are trying to sell sports cars, shouldn't you have a route planned that has some turns involved?

Grr. 

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Pschh, sports cars arent for performance, they're for balding guys to drive by where local teens/ young adults hang out with the top down, shades on, as slowly as possible while still looking nonchalant


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Well, its a Saturn?
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Why would you go to a Saturn dealership?  
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Saturn dissapointed me with the Ion. It is very unreliable. The Sky looks very nice, I just don't know if I could trust it. I would proabably be best off with a Kia.

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Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

Saturn dissapointed me with the Ion. It is very unreliable. The Sky looks very nice, I just don't know if I could trust it. I would proabably be best off with a Kia.


HAHA, Kia.
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Great show.

Saturn's are horrible. Don't do it.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Pschh, sports cars arent for performance, they're for balding guys to drive by where local teens/ young adults hang out with the top down, shades on, as slowly as possible while still looking nonchalant


So that's what I've been doing wrong!  Time to trade in the SUV.
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why would you ever get a sky? they look good, but like you said, it's a saturn. for roughly the same price as the sky, why not get a v-8 mustang gt? that would kill a sky in performance, looks, sound, the whole 9 yards.
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Saturn Sky= Vauxhaul VX220 = Opel Speedster.

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Originally posted by Dye Playa Dye Playa wrote:

why would you ever get a sky? they look good, but like you said, it's a saturn. for roughly the same price as the sky, why not get a v-8 mustang gt? that would kill a sky in performance, looks, sound, the whole 9 yards.


A mustang will not corner like the sky. Small 2 seater sports cars are fun to drive, probably more fun than a mustang. Plus, how often do you see a saturn sky compared to a mustang?
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Originally posted by Dye Playa Dye Playa wrote:

why would you ever get a sky? they look good, but like you said, it's a saturn. for roughly the same price as the sky, why not get a v-8 mustang gt? that would kill a sky in performance, looks, sound, the whole 9 yards.

 

Might as well pick up a 6 pack of budweiser, a leather nascar jacket and a pack of Marb reds while you're at it. 

white trash here we come!

 

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My wife and I test drove the Saturn Sky and the Pontiac Solstice (same car, different body panels) almost exactly a year ago. Definitely underpowered. Cornering was ROCK solid... One of the best handling cars I've ever driven.

Then Pontiac came out with the Solstice GXP and Saturn came out with the Redline. There are some differences from what I understand, but both have apparently resolved the underpowered issue.

BE VERY CAREFUL THOUGH... Ask the dealership about the weight limit on the car's frame. When we test drove them, there was a big yellow sticker on the runner panels that said "WARNING: Passenger and cargo weight not to exceed 360 pounds." Apparently they'd shaved weight off the frame to improve performance and the warranty was void if your frame was bent and they could show that you'd exceeded this posted limit. (At the time, I was 270 and my wife was 115, so that pretty much sealed it.)

Most people ignore these warnings, but the cars haven't been out long enough to determine whether this will get them into trouble.
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Originally posted by travis75 travis75 wrote:

Why would you go to a Saturn dealership?


Um, to testdrive the Sky?
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Originally posted by Dye Playa Dye Playa wrote:

why would you ever get a sky? they look good, but like you said, it's a saturn. for roughly the same price as the sky, why not get a v-8 mustang gt? that would kill a sky in performance, looks, sound, the whole 9 yards.


We were looking at the Sky / Solstice versus a BMW 325i versus a Mustang GT last July for my wife's new car. We had pretty much decided on the Solstice (only because the Sky's were special order only at the time) before we saw the yellow warning label I talk about in my post above. Because of that, and because the BMW was a sedan, we went with the Mustang GT...

So... Why was the Sky / Solstice in the lead at first? Styling has a lot to do with it. They are sexy cars, whereas the Mustang is a little more ordinary. But gas mileage was a big factor also. The GT requires Premium at $3.45 a gallon, 19 MPG. The Solstice can use Regular at $3.10 a gallon, 30 MPG.

Combine those things with the fact that the Solstice / Sky is smaller and definitely handles a little better than the GT and I can completely understand why someone would go that direction.
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Originally posted by Shub Shub wrote:

Originally posted by travis75 travis75 wrote:

Why would you go to a Saturn dealership?


Um, to testdrive the Sky?


I understand his point though. My mind lumps Saturn in with Hyundai, Kia, (defunct) Geo, and all the other low cost, low quality brands.
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I also wasn't initially planning on buying a Saturn, and I was a little turned off by the brand.  But I really like the way the Sky looks, and the performance reviews were consistently good (once the engine issue was resolved), so I figured I would give it a go.

Which is why the test drive was so disappointing - I got no chance to feel the handling.  I drove an SL550 a few months ago in the same neighborhood, and that dealer had no problems finding me an interesting drive.

As to the Mustang - not on the list, will never get on the list.  As Sandman guessed, I am looking for that small-car zippy feeling.  I also want a car with decent mileage, and preferably something fairly unusual.  The Mustang fails on all of those counts, image concerns aside.

But while we've got the car crowd interested - any thoughts on the Z4 or SLK?  Do I surrender my penis by sitting in either of those cars?

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Hell no. We briefly looked at those cars also. Steph didn't like the body style of the Z4 and the SLK was more than we were looking to spend.

I, on the other hand, would have definitely gone with one of the BMW's... The Z4 was a blast to drive and VERY sexy IMO. Plus you get the "white prop on blue sky" logo that looks very nice in the garage.

The SLK is a little more girly, but I've always viewed it as the poor man's SL... Just says you're not a millionare but you still like the Mercedes roadsters.

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Didn't drive the SLK, though, so can't comment on actual performance.
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That's my feel of the SLK as well...  unnecessarily expensive and a little girly.  The killer on the SLK is that it is almost impossible to get a stick version in the US.

I do like the hardtop, though.  True ragtops still bother me a bit.

The Z4 is looking pretty good, although there are a lot of them on the road.

Haven't driven either one yet, though.  The Sky was the first test drive in this cycle.  We'll see. 

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You know if you were looking at a GT regular would be fine ( didn't read your above post)

although i hate the solstice because of its style i dont mind the look of Saturn although im not real big on Pontiac or  Saturn


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