Racism

This is quite entertaining, I know I'm keeping Gatyr at the edge of his seat.

Which reminds me to ask, would you refuse to vote for either Obama or Clinton as president solely on the basis of gender and race? I bet there a few of you that would.

battlefreak wrote: I agree with evillepaintball I believe if your around a certain group of people long enough, ie: the black people in his school, you may become annoyed by their behavior and notice things you that you wouldn’t when your just around that group for a short period of time. I also believe that racism isn’t the only form of discriminate bigotry, someone who constantly makes fun of or criticizes a person because they are religious or non religious is just as bad. In my opinion its kind of a you me leave alone and ill leave you alone issue.

People can make racist jokes about other groups of people and not actually hate them.

reclusivetorrid wrote: I see Dune...my favorite liberal law enforcment officer. :) Listen, about the racism topic I feel the I need to re iterate a simple point. Racism does exist (and I'm not just talking about against blacks). Racism is also a product of the environment, minorities are taught that they are being repressed, and non-minorities are taught (in some cases) to repress minorities. I believe that most of the problem stems from the continued promotion of sereotypical behavior. Simply put, if you want people to look at you as if you are different act, dress, and talk differently. America is supposed to be a melting pot, not a big muddy mess of people that hate their own country. Later

I definitely agree with some of that post.

That's a good point, but it's not like many of our previous Presidents proved worthy of the office either.

I do however, think your basis for not voting for a woman is ridiculous. Although I haven't really seen a woman other than Hillary step into the limelight and try to take charge, it doesn't mean they aren't out there somewhere in our Congress. I also believe calling them tempermental is scary. That's a stereotype and fits well in to sexism. I could say that men are more aggressive which tends to get us into wars like the one we are in, but that doesn't make it absolutely true.

It's unfortunate that many people will refuse to vote for Obama on the basis of race and Hilary on gender. Legitimate arguments against their positions is just fine though. However, people tend to use other factors in order to cover up their trend towards streotyping.

Clark Kent wrote: Bunkered wrote:   Not to mention the fact that we're dealing largely with the Middle East right now, and most of those countries will never respect a woman as a leader. India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, England, Norway, Israel, Germany - some of the many countries with close ties to the Middle East (and for Pakistan/Israel, IN the Middle East) that have had female executives without any apparent loss of credibility. And, of course, our top interface with the Middle East is Condoleezza Rice.  The Arabs, Turks, Persians, etc have seen a lot more of her than they have of Dick or GW.

I have to stop and do research to post this, do you just have a wiki on standby with the "post reply" option open?

It's good to have hobbies.

I am astounded at the reaction some people have to voting for Obama, Clinton, or any other candidate that isn't a rich white Christian male. Romney is taking heat from both sides about something that should have nothing to do with politics. I'd hate to see an intelligent Atheist run, there are far more unintelligent people out there that vote.

I'm with you on that. You gotta love countries that truly have equal rights and promotion.