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I'm confused - what are they concerned about with the assisted opening?

(And I certainly agree that a fixed blade is the best knife, but that can be problematic for casual carrying...)

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CK, that also depends. I've heard some fellow officers regard assisted opening as "flick" or mechanical knives.

So just be careful with any sort of spring loaded knife.

As I said, I prefer fixed blades.

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Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

A:) butterfly knives suck as self defense knives, unless you've mastered them to an art and B:) around here anyway, you don't want to pull something like that out around the wrong people.

And C:) you would look like a total dork carrying one around.  Talk about stuck in the 70s.

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You can buy butterfly knives, but you can't carry them, at least here in Texas. So if you just want a knife for kicks, you can buy them if you look around, you just can't carry it around with you. Which is fine, since A:) butterfly knives suck as self defense knives, unless you've mastered them to an art and B:) around here anyway, you don't want to pull something like that out around the wrong people.

Cold steel makes a beautiful butterfly knife, you can check it out here. Prices vary, but it runs about $150.

As for the punishment, it's unlawful carry, so I guess alot of it would depend on what you were doing when they caught you.

 

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Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:


As a previous poster said, any decent thumb opening knife will easily surpass it in speed. Especially if you forgo the whole thumb opening and just "flick" the knife open.

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To get it to work you simply grasp the knife blade down, rotate your wrist so the blade moves towards the floor in a "snapping" action, reverse the direction and "snap" again in that direction, open knife in less than 1/10th of a second.

Or better yet, get an assisted-opening knife.  Easiest of all.

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Both. I have my personal one that is 18''; however, most departments around here, in fact almost all, have switched to 21'' ASP batons.
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The butterfly knife is cute, but ultimately pointless.

As a previous poster said, any decent thumb opening knife will easily surpass it in speed. Especially if you forgo the whole thumb opening and just "flick" the knife open.

Most well working knives, from Spyderco, through CRKT, Cold steel, you name it, you can flick them open with a rapid wrist action. WHat helps is 90% of the time, it's using the same grip you'd use when drawing a pocket clip knife out of your pocket anyway. The only knives I've had any trouble with as the Byrd made knives.

To get it to work you simply grasp the knife blade down, rotate your wrist so the blade moves towards the floor in a "snapping" action, reverse the direction and "snap" again in that direction, open knife in less than 1/10th of a second.

If you've got a thumb stud knife like a CRKT or Gerber, and not a thumb hole knife like a Spyderco or Byrd, you can simply put the pad of your thumb on the stud and flick your thumb up. Again, knife blade snaps open in less time than it takes to wave your Butterfly around.

The less flashy your knife draw, the quicker into action you can be. This is why I prefer fixed bladed knives.

Dune, That an issue batton or a private one? We're issued the old PR-24 style batton. wich has it's uses, but takes up too much damn space on the belt. We are allowed to replace it with an ASP batton if we can afford it.

I've seen a couple of belt battons, and that sucks balls when you've had to shell out to pay for it privately.

Same question about that '23. Yours or department issue?

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lol, I got it for a good price too. only 50 bucks, those things are usually expensive ass.
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Originally posted by Razgriz Ghost Razgriz Ghost wrote:

Marine issue ka-bar, and yes I use it for everything, hell I even use the butt for a hammer, reinforced with steel it aint hurting anything.

yea me too. it's also good for crackin a fish upside the head with it before you fillet it.

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Marine issue ka-bar, and yes I use it for everything, hell I even use the butt for a hammer, reinforced with steel it aint hurting anything.
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Originally posted by Razgriz Ghost Razgriz Ghost wrote:

My knife

e-penis aside I love this knife.

ka-bar? god i love mine, use it for everything. not sure about butterfly knives, but you can get them anywhere. i don't think a cop would do anything about it, but when is he going to see you with it? switchblades and stillettos i know are illegal, and around here i think you go directly to jail, do not pass go do not collect $200, with one. i love my switch though, but it's gotta stay home most of the time :(

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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

On my uniform belt I carry one of these

Toollogic SL1

And one of these (though in black)

Leatherman Wave

That, plus a pair of nitrile gloves. I'm ready for almost anything. :D
I love my Leatherman Kick. I use it for something nearly every day.
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My knife

e-penis aside I love this knife.

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Whoa...

This is not a guy you'd expect to ninja you when you try to mug him. Also, there goes the slow theory at around the 2:30 mark.

It would actually be really cool to do that stuff. I can only flick it open...

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What can't you do with a Leatherman?
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On my uniform belt I carry one of these

Toollogic SL1

And one of these (though in black)

Leatherman Wave

That, plus a pair of nitrile gloves. I'm ready for almost anything. :D
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DeTrevni Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2007 at 7:59pm

I hate you all.

Either way, this is a nice knife. Cost more than some cars, also...

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