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Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

making your car run batter,


Most delicious car ever.

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Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:


Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

making your car run batter,
Most delicious car ever.

Where are you going to find a fryer big enough?
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:


Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

making your car run batter,
Most delicious car ever.

Where are you going to find a fryer big enough?


Army surplus?
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^^^^^ hahhah true
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Speaking for myself, pretending to be in the army makes me feel like a man.
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     I like "milsim". It is what I got into when I started playing. Being that I am not middle aged and I did sink a lot into my a5  to make it look like I wanted it to I felt like saying something. I am 29, I have a full time job, I own my own house and have a wife and a beautiful little girl. I would not consider my self aggro and I have not ever been in the military. The reason that I like "milsim" so much is because it takes me back to when I was a kid playing G.I. Joes in the woods. It is my way I have fun for myself for a few hours every couple weeks and get away from life's pressures.
     I am not concerned with speedball or tournyball. They are cool and I think my a5 probably cost about as much as a ego or a high end marker. I do have all the performance upgrades done that I could do. I really don't see where someone would be so concerned with me and some of my buddies playing in the woods next to my house. Our guns maybe heavy and impractical but I get just as excited playing as someone going out to the x ball field.
    I hope that I did not offend anyone with my answer and I hope we can just all play in peace. Who knows, I might head out to the speed ball field at my local spot and get lit up by your ion, timmy, ego or what ever you shoot. Hopefully you can come out to the woods and get the same with a a5 that weighs a ton!

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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:


Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:


Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

making your car run batter,
Most delicious car ever.

Where are you going to find a fryer big enough?
Army surplus?


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Originally posted by FlashGordon FlashGordon wrote:

What is the deal with milsim guns?

From the standpoint of either a woodsball or speedball player they are completely impractical.

Completely?  I think you're overstating it, though I do think some people go overboard.  I normally like my A-5 smallish (see my sig) but I sometimes beef it up.  In a nighttime scenario, for example, I mount a tac light and laser on a Flatline, which makes it quite a bit longer, but only a pound or so heavier.  And for scenarios, those grenade launchers really do come in handy.

Originally posted by FlashGordon FlashGordon wrote:

The scopes and sights have little to no utility and many are clumsy to hold.

A red dot can be used effectively; the others probably not, but I don't have any experience with them.  My A-5 doesn't feel any clumsier than my son's Ion, though.  A bit heavier, maybe, but not clumsier.  In fact, I think the balance of my gun is a lot better than my son's, with that big honkin' hopper on there (DXS Pulse).

Originally posted by FlashGordon FlashGordon wrote:

So what is the draw towards milsim?

When you were 6 or 7 years old, playing cops & robbers or whatever, did you picture yourself with a gun or a marker?  That's what paintball is all about: losing yourself for a few hours and why not do it in an environment that kind of feels like warfare, if that's what you enjoy?  Maybe you prefer the more "sporty" feel of speedball, but it doesn't mean everyone does.  I do enjoy speedball; I just prefer woods.  Well, actually I prefer urban, but if you're lumping them all together...

Originally posted by FlashGordon FlashGordon wrote:

and why has milsim become synonymous with woods ball?

Milsim markers emulate real guns, woods emulate a battle field; well, at least a lot more than a woodsball field.

Originally posted by FlashGordon FlashGordon wrote:

What is the milsim demographic?

I can only speak for myself and my friends, but we're all late 20's to late 30's, male, some with military experience, some not.

Originally posted by FlashGordon FlashGordon wrote:

Should we (as players) be concerned with these people who go to great lengths to replicate armed combat in what is nothing more than a game?

To you it may be a game like a sport.  To others, the game is pretending to be in combat.  As long as everyone knows it's a game, who cares?  BTW, you do know you're on the Tippmann forum, right?


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I usually only put stuff on my gun if it serves a purpose. Milsim is an art if its something different, but I wouldnt want one. I have nothing against it, but I hate Spec Ops little crowd of snipers and milsim freaks, and the generic M16 98 Custom. Anything that truely is Custom I do have alot of respect for though.

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Originally posted by FlashGordon FlashGordon wrote:

What is the deal with milsim guns?

From the standpoint of either a woodsball or speedball player they are completely impractical. The scopes and sights have little to no utility and many are clumsy to hold.

So what is the draw towards milsim? and why has milsim become synonymous with woods ball?

What is the milsim demographic? Many of the players I have encountered are middle-aged men with no military service record. What do you think?

Should we (as players) be concerned with these people who go to great lengths to replicate armed combat in what is nothing more than a game?

What are your opinions?


yeah the milsim like an armotech or ariakon is pretty unreasonable. i like the look of the guns because i am a proud member of the military and am a medic for the marines so i like the military aspect. as for middle aged guys using them its probably because about 95% of young boys playe with toy soldiers and never joined so now they act like they are in. thank god i dont have to worry about that lol
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personally, i dont like the look of alot of milsim markers, i dont mind the looks of the sporty speedball guns, but a well built milsim gives does give me a bit of appreciation for them...

im not a scenario player through, more of a rec-ball/woodsball player...

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Originally posted by FlashGordon FlashGordon wrote:

What is the deal with milsim guns?



What is the milsim demographic? Many of the players I have encountered are middle-aged men with no military service record. What do you think?

Should we (as players) be concerned with these people who go to great lengths to replicate armed combat in what is nothing more than a game?

What are your opinions?

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Originally posted by Black_Shadow Black_Shadow wrote:

i dont like the look of alot of milsim markers

Originally posted by Black_Shadow Black_Shadow wrote:

i dont mind the looks of the sporty speedball guns

So what kind of markers do you like?


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Originally posted by netramakin netramakin wrote:

Originally posted by Black_Shadow Black_Shadow wrote:

i dont like the look of alot of milsim markers

Originally posted by Black_Shadow Black_Shadow wrote:

i dont mind the looks of the sporty speedball guns

So what kind of markers do you like?

Well he does not like Milsims so that leaves most likely only one other "catagory" left....


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Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:

Well he does not like Milsims so that leaves most likely only one other "catagory" left....

I know but he says he doesn't mind speedball guns.  If you don't really like at least one type, why is he on a paintball forum?  Not trying to be a jerk; just curious.


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Right, Maybe he likes pee shooters.

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I started out with a mil-sim 98.
Since then I have moved on to a PM5, A-5, Ion, Tac-One, and now an EMag.

The 98 was reliable, with an extremely quick rate of fire. Pointed nicely with a mask, and was easy to carry with a one point sling thing.

I truly miss that 98.

The A-5 was just as reliable, a bit heavier, and did not point as well.

The best marker I have ever shot, is my EMag. An ETac conversion really. Bought the EMag, swapped out my Tac-One body and rail, and it is a nice marker. Heavy by todays standards, but very reliable, mech or electric with the flick of a switch. It's like a sore penis...you just can't beat it.

I was big into mil-sim when I started. I have always played scenario paintball/woodsball.
It is a question of function vs. form. I would not have a problem going back to my old 98 mil-sim.
It ain't the arrow, it is the Indian....in my opinion.

I do love the Etac...I will always own this marker.
Notice that I did not mention that PM5 anywhere? That was the biggest piece of crap I ever owned. It could shoot 20bps, and it would at the chrono. Once it hit the field, it never worked...NOT even ONE time. Speedball or woodsball...it let me down Every single time. Traded it for the Emag...and man did I get the best trade in the history of paintball.

The difference in Speedball and woodsball is in the player. If you can play well, it does not matter what you play. You will be successful with what ever marker you choose to master. However, you must choose to master it, and practice.
Front sight focus, aim and squeeze. It's all the same, in any game you play.

If you like Mil-sim...Tippmann markers are awesome. Tons of upgrades and military look a like stuff.
Spec-ops has a ton of really expensive crap to hang off your marker.
It's all furniture though, has no effect on performance.
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