Your opinions on "mil-sim"?

FlashGordon wrote: We were trying to help you. Most of the posts in this topic have not been intended to help. But thanks Tae. A lot of the people who post in Thoughts and Opinions section do not play paintball any more. Doesn't mean I can't attempt to start an intelligent discussion about paintball in the proper section of a paintball forum.

Yes, yes it does.


We DO NOT talk about paintball here, DO not... In no way, ever.



Your logic


"Just because I'm supposed to drive the speed limit doesn't mean I can't floor it to see how fast I can go"



Edited by *Stealth* - 28 February 2007 at 8:02pm

Tae Kwon Do wrote: 1) I suppose yours are also included. 2) You can attempt all you want, but it should end up being moved to the proper section by a moderator. Not only that, but title does not dictate the "proper section." We here in T and O do not like the paintball topics.

1) Well yeah, that would make sense wouldn't it? I suppose it would look a little insane if I started talking to MYSELF in my thread..

2) So don't post, let this topic die.

Edited by FlashGordon - 28 February 2007 at 8:04pm

FlashGordon wrote: Tae Kwon Do wrote: 1) I suppose yours are also included. 2) You can attempt all you want, but it should end up being moved to the proper section by a moderator. Not only that, but title does not dictate the "proper section." We here in T and O do not like the paintball topics. 1) Well yeah, that would make sense wouldn't it? I suppose it would look a little insane if I started talking to MYSELF in my thread.. 2) So don't post, let this topic die.

I was not attempting to be hostile.

I am simply saying, if you want intelligent, informed answers, Thoughts and Opinions is not the place.

If you post this in New Players, you will get much better responses. Titles be damned.

I am not Middle Aged, I have an Outstanding Service record and am a Decorated Marine. If your just going to try to flame MILSIM to try to gain some Internet Credz then by all means but Im moving this to an apropiate section. So that you may find what ever sort of discusion you wanted.

tecumseh wrote: FlashGordon,  it's absolutely no use to argue with TKD.  He's one of the T&O gods, so please save us the flaming from here and put it into New Players.

Save yourself the flaming.. you are the one posting in this thread.

procarbinefreak wrote: but elvis... you look so bad ass with your guns... so it's ok

He's a Cuban Viking Pirate.... They all look badass...

Army wanna-bees?

 

I see regs post paintball topics all the time in T&O and you reply to them with the upmost respect, then lower post count forum members post paintball topics in T&O and ya chastise (sp) them.

Shame on you.

My opinion on it? Too expensive and impractical.

BUT... others enjoy it, especially at big scenerio games, and if they are willing to dish out the $$$, so be it.

Edited by Linus - 01 March 2007 at 11:37am

mislim is for use in scenarios and tactical tranning like paintball adventures advanced tactical systems there that is true mislim and popo training

As far as practicality, some milsim stuff doesn't do anything for the player. Some of it does, however, and some companies are getting good at combining milsim looks with paintball practicality.

Examples:

The Apex with the M-16 shroud. I have this on my gun, and it looks good while giving the capabilities of the Apex.

SpecOps Commando Stocks have a groove cut out for a players mask to fit in behind the gun, making it easier to aim. These stocks also have air-through capabilities for those that want it. Furthermore, SpecOps created the dogleg stocks that allow you to shoulder the gun and make it super easy to aim at the same time.

There are numerous magazines that have regulators built into them, like the Trinity AK-47 mag that has a Palmer Stabilizer built into it.

Some scenario players like to have milsim stuff just because it looks cool. Some like to have it because they want to simulate the feel of an actual firearm. Some have milsim stuff because it allows one marker to have several different capabilities, such as the addition of electronic sights, grenade/rocket launchers, flashlights, ect...

I don't know what the milsim demographics are, but it would be interesting to know. I have a milsim marker for one reason: I wanted to have the feel of an actual firearm, just for kicks. I guess it was just a phase, but now I would like to make a few changes to make the marker more practical and easier to use.

Speedball players are just as good in the woods. The skill sets for speedball and woodsball are incredibly similar once you break it down. Markers designed for speedball can just as easily be used in the woods the same way milsim markers can be used on speedball fields (although, there are some things about milsim markers that would make them difficult to use on speedball fields, such as stocks, extra weight, ect...)

There has been a recent trend for players to take up woodsball over speedball. I will leave the reasons for that to another thread, but the bottom line is that woodsball/milsim stuff is getting very popular. And where there is an interest, paintball companies will accommodate that market.

I don't think that there is a problem with milsim players and people getting concerned with people trying to replicate actual combat. It is still a sport, not real combat, and as long as players are mature enough to realize this, then there will not be a problem.  Some companies and organizations (US military) replicate combat with milsim stuff for training purposes, but these people realize the implications of what they are doing and take it very seriously.