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    Posted: 07 January 2007 at 2:47am
I have a Tippmann X7 that I bought when it first came out ...it's serial number is 160. I've taken it to several games now and the cyclone hopper chews paint up like a blender. I've tried 3 different kinds of paints and two different barrels as well as took the cyclone apart and made sure that the parts were working correctly. I still had the issue. I was out playing today and after a game, the ratchet broke! On a brand new gun! I replaced it and I still had the blender issue. Any thoughts or ideas on what I can check or do??? This is a brand new gun so it shouldn't be having these issues.
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Vortex Mod :)

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Its probably broken/defective like shadowminion said, Customer Service!

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yeah i'm having the same problem with my new X7 destroying balls.  every other ball was just sheared in half.

i tried 4 different types of balls.  yes i know they are all from the same manufacturer, but if i gotta get a new distributor just for the X7 i'll stop carrying the X7's.  the brands were all-star, premium, rampage and stinger.  none of them would shoot more than once or twice without the next one chopping.  this is even after barrel cleaning and changing.  this was even tested at a rate of about 1 shot per second with no better success.  it seems to do best with a 4 inch barrel and still shot straight.  unfortunately it was like shooting mustard. 

i understand the temperature was around 50 degrees so im going to go with that being the problem cause i know the balls were fresh.  i also turned down the velocity and tried different barrels. 

 I didnt even take a back up gun cause i had such high hopes for the gun working and had to go home early.

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is the marker actually chopping the rounds (is the paint all over the bolt and in the cyclone feed?) or are they breaking in the barrel? If they are chopping, then it is a timing issue with the cyclone feed and the bolt movement. Possibly a bad ratchet.
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There have been reports of early X-7s having a problem with the hammer not catching properly, resulting in multi-fire and chops.  This can be fixed with replacement parts.  As suggested, make sure that this is really a Cyclone problem, and not a breech chop issue.
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It may very well be a breech chop issue but there seems to be more paint in the cyclone itself than the bolt/breech area. After shooting several shots it's like you are shooting goop out of the end of the gun. I think tha this should have been addressed in manufacturing before the marker was released and they should have someone address this here.
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new hopper?
what?
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Unfortunately a new hopper won't fix this. I sent this info to Tippmann support and got the following answer..

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NOT REAL SURE WHAT IS CAUSEING THIS BUT USUALLY THE THINGS THAT CAN CAUSE THIS ARE THE BARREL[BURRS], THE CYCLONE PUSHING TO HARD [TOO MUCH AIR PRESSURE] OR THE BALLS THEMSELVES.

 

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2955 Adams Center Rd.

Ft, Wayne IN. 46803

1-800-533-4831

1-260-749-6022

Doesn't sound like they know what's happening with their own marker.

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he typed in all caps?

i'm calling schens on that post.

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Why would you buy any product that was just released? It is always going to have some issues that need to be worked out.

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straight from tippmann's tech support, try backing out the cyclone's center screw just a hair to free up the feeder a bit. There apparently is a feeling that it might be an issue of the cyclone feeder being secured too tightly (which may explain the stripping of the ratchet) That is the only suggestion they've got at the moment aside from sending it in.
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

straight from tippmann's tech support, try backing out the cyclone's center screw just a hair to free up the feeder a bit. There apparently is a feeling that it might be an issue of the cyclone feeder being secured too tightly (which may explain the stripping of the ratchet) That is the only suggestion they've got at the moment aside from sending it in.


I have seen this happen with A-5s with too long of a screw.

My serial number 4XX gun shoots just fine.


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I already backed the screw out and it's definitely not the paddles being secured too well. I ordered the vortex mod kit for it so that the cyclone internals are better and I might go ahead and get a better power tube as well since I play quite a bit in cold weather, other then that the only thing I can think of is that there isn't enough air getting to the cyclone to cycle it fast enough or in time with the marker.
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I am having the same problem. Serial # 0000114 . It was around 45 degrees outside. I have shot Blaze, Chronic, Midnight and cheap rec paint. All the same. About 10 shots before it would chop. Most of the paint was in the cyclone itself. Took it back and the guy didn't want to exchange it for the last one on the wall. Called Tippmann and they wanted me to send it in. Got it for christmas and can't even use it. What a pitty.
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Originally posted by xOffMyMedsx xOffMyMedsx wrote:

I am having the same problem. Serial # 0000114 . It was around 45 degrees outside. I have shot Blaze, Chronic, Midnight and cheap rec paint. All the same. About 10 shots before it would chop. Most of the paint was in the cyclone itself. Took it back and the guy didn't want to exchange it for the last one on the wall. Called Tippmann and they wanted me to send it in. Got it for christmas and can't even use it. What a pitty.


Did you try backing up the Cyclone Screw a bit? I have ran about 400 rds through mine and so far so good. Are you leaving any paint after the breaks ?

Sorry to hear about your Gun woes man. Tippmann is very promptly on getting the guns back out in Time.
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I seem to be having the same problem with my new a-5 ...Few rounds then splating paint out....Ended up greanading the paddle in the gear part underneath....Swapped it out for some new one thats kinda flexable and its still doin it...When I emptied the hopper out the hopper and were it meets the body were covered. I thought i was my flatline but i put stock barrel and a 14 in smart part on it and its still doing it..Talk about a pain in the ass in the middle of a game
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Hey guys look at the piston U-Cup O-ring. Look for tears and scratches.This may be the issue.

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Do you think it could be the ball detent getting cold and hardening up? It was about 40 when I played and was having the problem. I was using good winter paint..I shot polar ice, ramp blizzard, and an evil winter blend..All having the same issue with my gun and my buddies brand new x7...I mean others were having break issues but nothing like the every 5-6th ball comming out as soup

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