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    Posted: 28 December 2006 at 12:29pm
Watched a debate on the sunday morning blurb hours and as channel cruising listened to a commentator state; "This current war has no comparison to World War 2, it is not another World War", and within two sentences stated "The Islamofacist elements are attempting world domination, and must be negotiated with in order to prevent the spead of religious war across the globe".

Now did I miss history, Islamofacist equals maybe National Socialist, Nazi, Facist...same animal different culture maybe?

"Attempting world domination..." 1939-1945 did we not see this....

"Negotiation" equals appeasement, and we know how well that worked ot for Neville Chamberlain and his agreement of "Peace in our Time" with Hitler in 1938.

I really do like when the "foot in mouth" syndrom hits and no-one catches on............
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1.  Just because Bush now refers to radical Muslims as "fascists" doesn't mean that they have any relation to Nazis.  That's just a semantic game.

2.  There are similarities and dissimilarities between radical Muslims and Nazis, just as there are between radical Muslims and radical Christians.  These are not binary comparisons.

3.  Appeasement is arguably the single most successful strategy for dealing with political opponents in the history of mankind.  Hawks love to point to the failure of appeasement with Hitler, while ignoring the centuries of past and current success. 

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Actually Clark I think 'Islamofacscist' is a startlingly apt term- it does a good job of describing the fierce (radical) Islamic nationalism that characterizes those groups. It's a term that I've seen more and more in the past couple of years. Yes, it was coined in right wing circles, but I don't think it's a political label with no shred of truth to it.

We (the western world) ARE confronted by a clear and present threat of a different group of people with genuine believe in a way of life that mandates our deaths or conversion. Fortunately, the vast majority of those subscribing to that religion do not feel as virulently towards the west. Unfortunately, those who do are the sheepdogs, as it were, and most of the rest are sitting quiet and not condemning them in any loud fashion. The mob mentality within the Muslim world is content to allow the Islamic radicals to remain 'someone else's problem'- namely ours. The people themselves see no tangible benefit to standing up and saying 'THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT US', and until they do things will continue on mostly as they are.

The Islamofascist culture is self sustaining, as it feeds of human weakness The religious scholars that subscribe to those radical believes are the ones in charge of Islamic Medrassas that attract thousands of young men with little else to live for and educate them in their respective institutional versions of Jihad. It's a complete process of indoctrination that turns apathy and desperation into a genuine focused hatred.

The trouble with a foreign movement based on hate is that you can fight it, but it can only be exterminated from within its own culture. Witness the Irish Troubles for a rough analog to this situation- one with an apparently successful outcome as Irish culture itself shifted away from support of violence and ethnic conflict.

It's going to be a long, painful process seeing where the two cultural hemispheres end up reaching their equilibrium.
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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Actually Clark I think 'Islamofacscist' is a startlingly apt term- it does a good job of describing the fierce (radical) Islamic nationalism that characterizes those groups. It's a term that I've seen more and more in the past couple of years. Yes, it was coined in right wing circles, but I don't think it's a political label with no shred of truth to it.

Oh, I agree that the term is legitimate.  It's the over-used and inaccurate comparison to Nazis that bothers me.

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I love the news, too.  My nephew got back from Iraq not long ago.  He is with the 82nd.  He came home this Christmas and was with us for 5 days when he got the call for redeployment.  He left our house this morning.  Some of his unit are returning from Iraq right now and don't even know that they are going to get right back on a plane and redeploy.  He says that their gear is worn out, their people are worn out, and criminals, druggies and other barely deployables are now making their way into the 82nd due to the relaxing of enlistment requirements.  He spends much of his time chaptering out soldiers for alcohol, drugs and domestic violence.  But don't worry FOX NEWS will keep reporting that enlistment goals are being met. 
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Smitty, Enlistment goals being met with "substandard" enlistees. Glad you were never in the draft army. People like yourself, your nephew, and the other than the FOX News crowd would be having a coranary today if same conditions exsisted.

Lets see, troops that could not read, in service in lieu of jail time, rampant drug use, yep, the late 60's thru 72 were just a blast, yet we maintained and soldiered on, and many have become successfull in later life because of the adversity and comraderie they faced, dealt with, and moved on in life.

Average career soldier rotated back to VN after only 6-9 months at home, one at a time, no unit cohesion, individuals placed in situations that at times could be very "challenging" for a career NCO, and to living conditions no where near the air conditioned, instant communication home, good food, and sanitation, base camps of today's army.

What today's generation is that much differant?

BTW,my oldest boy was a Company Commander with 101st, am familiar with troop situations, and too many forget what a war is, in today's nintendo era of warfare.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Smitty, Enlistment goals being met with "substandard" enlistees. Glad you were never in the draft army. People like yourself, your nephew, and the other than the FOX News crowd would be having a coranary today if same conditions exsisted.

Lets see, troops that could not read, in service in lieu of jail time, rampant drug use, yep, the late 60's thru 72 were just a blast, yet we maintained and soldiered on, and many have become successfull in later life because of the adversity and comraderie they faced, dealt with, and moved on in life.

Average career soldier rotated back to VN after only 6-9 months at home, one at a time, no unit cohesion, individuals placed in situations that at times could be very "challenging" for a career NCO, and to living conditions no where near the air conditioned, instant communication home, good food, and sanitation, base camps of today's army.

What today's generation is that much differant?

BTW,my oldest boy was a Company Commander with 101st, am familiar with troop situations, and too many forget what a war is, in today's nintendo era of warfare.

Perhaps today's generation of soldier doesn't wish to be a Vietnam Veteran? 

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How can they be like the Nazis? according to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the Nazus never existed.
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