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stratoaxe
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 7:03am |
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Um, K? I believe Saddam's atrocities are pretty well internationally documented, and as far as the death penalties go, the Iraqi people have well earned their right to put that dog down. I believe that there are videos out there Saddam kept of using gas on newborn babies...he doesn't deserve to live... And it's "penalty", "lightly" and "remember". Edited by stratoaxe - 27 December 2006 at 7:04am |
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choopie911
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 7:10am |
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Um no. Yes, some is obviously americanized, biased, etc...but you cant say 100%. Heck, my best friend growing up, his dad was from Iraq, he had to sneak out of the country, he wasnt legally allowed to leave. His brother (my friends uncle) was shot in front of his brother for something like that (trying to leave, etc) I'm not sure. Obviously I dont know the full story, but theres no way you can say 100% is propaganda when there is unbiased proof of his wrongdoings. |
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 11:43am |
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I still don't favor death sentences. |
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 11:47am |
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I don't like it, but it's not in my hands. I think he deserves to die, but it's not
my (or anyone elses) right to kill him. |
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Roll Tide
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 12:24pm |
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I'm just curious, but what do you think should be done in this situation? |
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battlefreak
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 12:41pm |
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It's just a way to get him out of the way and done with, it wont solve much but at least no one will ever have to worry about him again.
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barn_user
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 12:59pm |
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Agreed. |
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brihard
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 1:11pm |
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My personal objections to the death penalty have always been because of the justice system- not the punishment itself.
In this instance we can all feel 100% utterly certain that Saddam is in fact guilty of his crimes- that being certain, I've got no problem with him being put to death. High profile war criminals are really one of the few instances these days in which I CAN trust judicial process when it hands down a death sentence... It'll be quick and easy, really. A short sharp drop, the neck breaks, and no more Saddam. As much as I distrust the vast majority of information coming out of Iraq from ANY source, I've got no moral issue with executing Saddam. He made his own bed, now he has to lie in it. |
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Clark Kent
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 2:16pm |
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Can I propose that this isn't really a "death penalty" at all? Not in a justice system kind of way, anyway. This is really a post-revolution/invasion dispose-of-the-old-leaders kind of thing. Saddam is a POW more than anything else, despite the screwball "trials" they come up with. His trial wouldn't pass muster under most legal systems - and you will recall that a big problem was to figure out what legal system to try him under. And, of course, one of Saddam's defenses has a lot of legal merit: He "is" Iraq, and it is therefore impossible for him to commit a crime under Iraqi law. This principle has loads of precedent, and is deeply embedded in legal systems around the world, including the US. Bush used a version of this to point out that it is impossible for the President to violate document secrecy rules. Virtually every military action constitutes "murder" under civilian laws, yet is perfectly legal, because government action is generally exempt from civilian law. Saddam has a very good point, which is (part of) why a lot of legal experts are laughing at the kangaroo court they put together for him. Saddam's crime is really just being Saddam, and comparing this to regular murderers, legally speaking, is wrong, IMO. |
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.Ryan
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 2:32pm |
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Good point. I'd still rather see him rot in cell though.... |
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 5:46pm |
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Benjichang
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 5:50pm |
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It's all pretty pointless, IMO. The world isn't going to be any better with Saddam dead. Life isn't going to be any different for the Iraqi's or anyone else for that matter. Punishing violence with more violence doesn't solve problems, if anything it makes them worse. I wish more people could see that. I find it ironic at best that so many Christians in the U.S. are in favor of the death penalty when it clearly goes against the teachings of Christianity. I guess this is all another discussion for another time though. |
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GI JOES SON
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 6:33pm |
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it may have been mentioned on the news this morning but it was determined that it would done like that within 30 days at least a month ago, i remember hearing about it on the radio |
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brihard
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 6:54pm |
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He still had the legal right to an appeal. I believe that upon the verdict of the appeal, the thirty days start, assuming the appeal is lost (which it was). |
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636andy636.
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 8:13pm |
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OH NOES, NOT UNCLE SADDAM!
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 9:09pm |
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That'll learn him for what he did on 9/11.
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carl_the_sniper
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 9:24pm |
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i know saddam was a very bad man but i am opposed to the death penalty
Like i believe some people should be executed but as with Brihard i have problems with the legal side of it. Because who has the right to decide if a man should live or die? nobody does... no matter what there would be bias. like if we were to put down strict rules on certain conditions where the death penalty is imposed, There would be a separate trial once the person is convicted where it is decided exactly what crimes were done and how many times.... maybe a point system would be used where if someone has a certain amount of points they are executed. |
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.Ryan
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 9:28pm |
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Wow, "like" is as annoying in text as it is in speech....
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636andy636.
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 10:56pm |
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Whats worse, Rest of your life in prison, or, killed in 30 days?
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Rock Slide
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 11:35pm |
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So... Who has him in their death pool?
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