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.Ryan - The latter.  Financially the Tesla makes no sense whatsoever - although you do get Ferrari-like performance for a fraction of the price.

I try to buy high-milage vehicles whenever possible, if they fit my requirements.  Not always possible, but why buy a gas-guzzler when you can get the same or better car with better mileage?



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Gotcha. Respect +1.

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Originally posted by .Ryan .Ryan wrote:

Gotcha. Respect +1.

More like respect +0.1.  My requirements/wants for vehicles are pretty high, so none of my vehicles have mileages worth bragging about.  Hopefully that will change.  I have a couple of cars in sight that will improve my fleet average significantly.

But I do try to buy "best in class" mileage, at least.  Baby steps.

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Everytime I hear an argument against a hybrid/ electric car, its almost always "you know that you wont actually save any money on fuel, the car costs more than you'd save"

So? Whats wrong with wanting a car that doesnt rape the planet, even if it costs a couple extra bucks? Its not always about saving YOURSELF some hassle.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Everytime I hear an argument against a hybrid/ electric car, its almost always "you know that you wont actually save any money on fuel, the car costs more than you'd save"

So? Whats wrong with wanting a car that doesnt rape the planet, even if it costs a couple extra bucks? Its not always about saving YOURSELF some hassle.


Consider that the steps taken to make batteries/hydrogen for hybrid cars sometimes does more environmental damage than just getting a typical gasoline-only car.
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Originally posted by Hairball!!! Hairball!!! wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Everytime I hear an argument against a hybrid/ electric car, its almost always "you know that you wont actually save any money on fuel, the car costs more than you'd save"

So? Whats wrong with wanting a car that doesnt rape the planet, even if it costs a couple extra bucks? Its not always about saving YOURSELF some hassle.


Consider that the steps taken to make batteries/hydrogen for hybrid cars sometimes does more environmental damage than just getting a typical gasoline-only car.


I read the story behind the Tesla, and that seems to be the case less and less. People also think that the electricity used to charge them will do just as much damage (coal plants, etc) and in reality, its not even close.

Yeah, batteries = bad for the environment, but apparently its not as bad as traditional cars.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Hairball!!! Hairball!!! wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Everytime I hear an argument against a hybrid/ electric car, its almost always "you know that you wont actually save any money on fuel, the car costs more than you'd save"

So? Whats wrong with wanting a car that doesnt rape the planet, even if it costs a couple extra bucks? Its not always about saving YOURSELF some hassle.


Consider that the steps taken to make batteries/hydrogen for hybrid cars sometimes does more environmental damage than just getting a typical gasoline-only car.


I read the story behind the Tesla, and that seems to be the case less and less. People also think that the electricity used to charge them will do just as much damage (coal plants, etc) and in reality, its not even close.

Yeah, batteries = bad for the environment, but apparently its not as bad as traditional cars.


I was thinking more about the production of hydrogen. As of right now, there's just not enough being produced for there to be an efficient process.
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Originally posted by ardyandkari ardyandkari wrote:

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my 94 Escort takes like 12sec to get to 60

The car looks sweet. I've been waiting for the "futuristic" styled cars to be made and this looks like one. I still like the tesla all electric car though. But that cars also 90k

Edit: I'm also glad cars are starting to become a little more different looking like way back in the day :O


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Heck, my corolla hits 60 in under 9 seconds, and I'm happy with it.
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My geo prizm that is the same thing as the corolla gets 27 to the gallon cause they sent us the wrong trannsmission but i dont care i own a car now. Toyota will never replace the Supra its just a fact. Cmon those things beat 03 Cobras


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badass, but so far it doesn’t beat the 09 Camaro...600hp stock. And if you want good gas mileage you can get the 30mpg package


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Originally posted by oreomann33 oreomann33 wrote:

A Toyota's a Toyota.


Not really Corolla doesn't equal Supra
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Originally posted by battlefreak battlefreak wrote:

badass, but so far it doesn’t beat the 09 Camaro...600hp stock.  

It's not all about the horsepower.  If the new Camaro drives like the old Camaros, I can imagine a whole lot of cars with smaller engines that I would much rather have.

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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by battlefreak battlefreak wrote:

badass, but so far it doesn’t beat the 09 Camaro...600hp stock.  


It's not all about the horsepower.  If the new Camaro drives like the old Camaros, I can imagine a whole lot of cars with smaller engines that I would much rather have.

Good point but they are are different packages for the Camaro and its not as heavy as it would seem, you can get the 600hp package with a handling package as well, you just got to cough up the dough.
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Originally posted by battlefreak battlefreak wrote:

Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by battlefreak battlefreak wrote:

badass, but so far it doesn’t beat the 09 Camaro...600hp stock.  


It's not all about the horsepower.  If the new Camaro drives like the old Camaros, I can imagine a whole lot of cars with smaller engines that I would much rather have.

Good point but they are are different packages for the Camaro and its not as heavy as it would seem, you can get the 600hp package with a handling package as well, you just got to cough up the dough.


How about the 600 hp package with the handling package and 30mpg package all in one? -dodgy-
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"but Toyota says it is fantasizing about projecting a price tag of around $35,000" - website

there fantasizing about that price?, somthing tells me that its gonna be more expensive

and i seriously doubt thats hows its gonna look if they decide to put it into production

also it just looks like a mad kitted out celica

id go with the camaro any day thanks



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nice. I like the 09 Camaro the brdy

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I'm looking forward to the 09 Corvette, 650 hp!
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Originally posted by 636andy636. 636andy636. wrote:


Originally posted by battlefreak battlefreak wrote:

Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by battlefreak battlefreak wrote:

badass, but so far it doesn’t beat the 09 Camaro...600hp stock.  


It's not all about the horsepower.  If the new Camaro drives like the old Camaros, I can imagine a whole lot of cars with smaller engines that I would much rather have.

Good point but they are are different packages for the Camaro and its not as heavy as it would seem, you can get the 600hp package with a handling package as well, you just got to cough up the dough.
How about the 600 hp package with the handling package and 30mpg package all in one? -dodgy-
you cant get the 600hp with 30mpg but the 30mpg package is 400 hp soz, yea.
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