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    Posted: 16 December 2006 at 11:11pm
...about marijuana.

For over 70 years, the US Government has been spreading falsehoods about the use of the plant known as marijuana, prosecuting its users at every turn.
Every year, thousands of people are imprisoned for simple possession of marijuana. These cases clog our court system, use valuable police resources, and waste tax-payer dollars. The federal government even feels it necessary to raid medicinal marijuana facilities in places where the use of cannabis products by the terminally/chronically ill has been made legal by popular vote. Even hemp, a cousin of marijuana with virtually no psychoactive properties is illegal under federal law. On top of all this, the DEA also prohibits the mere study of marijuana to all but one or two researchers and they must use the "weed" that the government supplies them, which is notoriously poor quality.
Since the beginning of the prohibition of marijuana, the government has pumped out propaganda to support their cause. Films like "Reefer Madness" were used to sway an uneducated public into following officials into this "drug war," but the 'facts' they contain have long since been proven inaccurate.

What is left of the government's case against weed?
Scientific studies have shown that marijuana has properties that make it useful in medicine, yet the FDA still claims that it has "no accepted medical purpose."
New studies also indicate that the "gateway theory" on marijuana is not true.
Most people now know that your brain is not going to melt down due to marijuana use, and you can NOT overdose.

It seems to be a question of morality, and whether or not the government should try to regulate it. In the 1920s, our nation attempted to ban alcohol. Because of the ban, violent crime greatly increased due to smuggling practices. Should marijuana be legalized and regulated, it would take the power out of the kingpins' and gangsters' hands. Buying marijuana would no longer expose you to harder drugs via the dealer, and violent crime rates related to drugs would likely be greatly reduced.
Who knows, maybe the taxes it could raise would even help pay for this mess we're in in the Middle East. Whatever the case, it's time for the government to stop telling me what to put in my body.

It's time for a change, and our generation will be the one to cause it. Listen to everything you're told with a grain of salt.

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They can't tax weed, therefor they don't sell it.
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It's a site with "cannabis" in the title. Let's take anything said THAT site with a grain of salt.
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Explain to me how they "can't tax weed."
They can tax alcohol and cigarettes, they could tax weed (and make a killing off it, by the way. It's not expensive to grow plants.)
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Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

It's a site with "cannabis" in the title. Let's take anything said THAT site with a grain of salt.


The news articles are not written by that site... They are gathered from news articles nation-wide and put in one place for convenient finding. Most are somewhat reputable sources, including Time Magazine, New York Times, and many others.
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Ah. I see.

Still, seems a little bit stilted.

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Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

Explain to me how they "can't tax weed."
They can tax alcohol and cigarettes, they could tax weed (and make a killing off it, by the way. It's not expensive to grow plants.)

I can't. Its just a quote I picked upa nd use everytime this debate comes up. I'm not very learned on the reasons The Man puts down weed.
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Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

Explain to me how they "can't tax weed."
They can tax alcohol and cigarettes, they could tax weed (and make a killing off it, by the way. It's not expensive to grow plants.)

They could tax it, but it is easier for to grow weed than it is tobacco or to make moonshine. If they did legalize weed you would still be able to get it cheaper from a home grower than to buy it from a gas station or whatever.
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Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:


Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

Explain to me how they "can't tax weed."
They can tax alcohol and cigarettes, they could tax weed (and make a killing off it, by the way. It's not expensive to grow plants.)
They could tax it, but it is easier for to grow weed than it is tobacco or to make moonshine. If they did legalize weed you would still be able to get it cheaper from a home grower than to buy it from a gas station or whatever.

I'll go with that.
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They can tax it, like a tobbacco product, and they DO tax it...

It's all apart of the "war on drugs" and the lack of the DEA finding a good enough reason to reschedule marijuana on the controlled substances act, despite its medicinal value, its lack of risk with use, and in no way does it have a "high potential" for abuse.  I still do not get why it's illegal.
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Haha, wow.

That was not an unbiased source you linked to at all.

Yeah, smoking anything is bad for you. BUT OMG LIEK TABACOO IS...Shush, I
care not, I would like to see them ban tabacco smoking as well.

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I know why it BECAME legal... but I just can't figure out why it hasn't been changed yet, other than the government refusing to admit they were wrong.
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Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Haha, wow.

That was not an unbiased source you linked to at all.


Again, yes, it is a site about news on Cannabis.
However, the articles are NOT from the website, and are gathered from actual news sources.
I actually have seen more than once anti-weed article on the site, but they ARE mostly people who lean towards legalization.
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Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Haha, wow.

That was not an unbiased source you linked to at all.

Yeah, smoking anything is bad for you. BUT OMG LIEK TABACOO IS...Shush, I
care not, I would like to see them ban tabacco smoking as well.


I don't smoke weed anymore (for the most part).
When it's my decision on what to use, I use my vaporizer. No harm to my lungs, no carcinogens, just pure THC goodness.
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If they banned tobacco  I would die... 
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Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Haha, wow.

That was not an unbiased source you linked to at all.

Yeah, smoking anything is bad for you. BUT OMG LIEK TABACOO
IS...Shush, I
care not, I would like to see them ban tabacco smoking as well.


I don't smoke weed anymore (for the most part).
When it's my decision on what to use, I use my vaporizer. No harm to my
lungs, no carcinogens, just pure THC goodness.


Haha, keep thinking that.

Cannot argue with Darwinisim.

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Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

I know why it BECAME legal... but I just can't figure out why it hasn't been changed yet, other than the government refusing to admit they were wrong.


Possibly because of the DEA.  The DEA and the FDA are the ones who can decide which drug is scheduled where.  If suddenly marijuana is rescheduled, or placed on the same area as tobbacco and alcohol, then it will possibly cause loss of jobs to people in the DEA (maybe), who knows really...  they spend millions on eraticating the plant, and making sure it is not coming from over the border, so that could be one reason why.  What is also weird is all this new research that is coming out which claims it helps more than it harms is government funded, and yet the DEA still doesn't recognize that.  Even on their website a lot of the information they give on marijuana contradicts what various studies show.
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Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Haha, wow.

That was not an unbiased source you linked to at all.

Yeah, smoking anything is bad for you. BUT OMG LIEK TABACOO
IS...Shush, I
care not, I would like to see them ban tabacco smoking as well.


I don't smoke weed anymore (for the most part).
When it's my decision on what to use, I use my vaporizer. No harm to my
lungs, no carcinogens, just pure THC goodness.


Haha, keep thinking that.

Cannot argue with Darwinisim.


I'm not quite sure I understand what you're saying...
If you're questioning the use/workings of my vaporizer, I'd be glad to explain how it's not the same as smoking.

If you're talking about the "pure THC goodness," then I can't really say anything other than life is short, and I'm enjoying it.
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The harmful effects of marijuana on the Brain and Central Nervous System
Impaired thinking, mood, memory, and coordination
Marijuana (THC) is an extremely powerful and pleasurable intoxicant. It
affects, alters, and damages brain cells controlling thinking, emotion,
pleasure, coordination, mood and memory. The pituitary gland is also
damaged which regulates hunger, thirst, blood pressure, sexual behavior,
and release of sex hormones.
Clogged synapses, brain damage and addiction
Marijuana accumulates in the microscopic spaces between nerve cells in
the brain called "synapses." This clogging interferes by slowing and
impairing transfer critical information.
Long term use causes the brain to stop production of brain chemicals
necessary to "feel good" - a negative feedback condition. And, the user
becomes chemically addicted to marijuana.
The harmful effects of marijuana on the Heart
Speeds up heartbeat as much as 50%, increases blood pressure, and
poses great risk to those with hypertension and heart disease.
The harmful effects of marijuana on the Endocrine System
Marijuana damages the network of glands, organs, and hormones
involved in growth and development, energy levels, and reproduction.
Organs and glands affected:
pituitary gland
thyroid gland
stomach
duodenum
pancreas
adrenal glands
testis
The harmful effects of marijuana on the Reproductive System males and
females
Marijuana use can decrease and degenerate sperm, sperm count,
movement, and cause lowered sex drive. Females can have egg damage,
suppression of ovulation, disrupt menstrual cycles, and alteration of
hormone levels.
Regular use during pregnancy can lower birth weight and cause
abnormalities similar to Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (small head, irritability,
poor growth and development.
Can destroy the number of chromosomes, resulting in cell abnormalities
and impaired function.
Other affects on the central nervous system
distortions of perceptions, thinking and reality
Difficulty in forming concepts and thoughts
Poor concentration
Mental confusion
Loss of motivation
Wide mood swings
Aggression and hostility
Depression, anxiety and paranoia
The harmful effects of marijuana on the Eyes
Sleep looking, blood-shot eyes with dilated pupils.
The harmful effects of marijuana on the Throat
Irritates membranes of the esophagus; increases chance of developing
cancer of larynx and esophagus.
The harmful effects of marijuana on the Lungs
Significant damage and destruction of the air sacs of the lungs, reducing
the lungs ability to bring oxygen and remove carbon dioxide -
Emphysema.
Causes bronchial tubes to be inflamed, thickened and to produce more
mucus; resulting in narrowing of the air passages - Chronic Bronchitis.
Marijuana smoke has twice as much "tar" as cigarette smoke and
significantly increases chance of lung cancer, inflammation and infection.

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