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    Posted: 12 October 2006 at 8:09am

i saved a pic a long time ago...forget where i found it...the way its done in the pic wont work right...its still hard on the pull...ill post pics and a guide to how i did it when i get it working right...



Edited by RaVeN - 16 October 2006 at 7:45am

ions are like mustangs...alot of people have them but not many know how to use them...
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Just lightens your trigger pull methinks.
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i dono...from what it looks like...the sear is being held up with the tape so its easier to trip, then the trigger is setup to be walked easily...kinda like a roller trigger...then he has a trigger stop which seems to keep the trigger from over-traveling backwords, and then pulled the sping out an extra coil to lessen the tension on the sear itself, as for the magnet, im not sure...im going to try it on my broken down 98 see how much it reduces the trigger pull...and if its walkable...

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update:

i added some tape to the one rod and put the gun back together...you need to be careful because too much tape, as you can figure, will keep the sear from latching at all...but just the right ammount makes the trigger pull like...mabye 1.5-2mm, but it still takes some force to pull the trigger...its nearly walkable, im going to try and figure out a way to make the sear a little easier to trip...ill keep everyone updated on my progress

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i stretched out the sear spring more, and the trigger pull is so light now, if i can manage to make a trigger stop for the front of the trigger to pre-set it back to reduce the travel and then have a little force on it all it takes is a slight tap and BAM it fires...

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im getting really close to getting this to work, right now things are kinda lose but the trigger is sooooo tight and the trigger pull is increadably short...i just need to fix its new problem of the sear not catching the rear bolt...i polished the area with some fine steel wool, so its really smooth now, everything is comming along great, ill post a full guide to this when im finished...

nearly finished:

i got the sear working by removing some more tape...i think if i add some more on the trigger  stop the trigger pull will be ever shorter...right now i can stand the 98 verticaly...then drop a pencil on the trigger and cause it to fire



Edited by RaVeN - 12 October 2006 at 11:20am

ions are like mustangs...alot of people have them but not many know how to use them...
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1. Stack about 5 pieces of 1/8"x1/4" pieces of electical tape on top of eachother to make a little tape block then place it here where the trigger would normal be pressing on the power tube, then tightly wrap a pice of tape all the way around it ONE time to hold it in place, dont do it more then once or one and 1/2 times at most or you will start to have a hard time fitting the power tube into place.

2. This is the pin that the sear rests on, wrap some 1/8th inch tape strips around it until you have about 3 complete wraps. Then set it back in place.

3. Pull some extra slack in this spring, do not pull too much in it because then your sear will not work right, but pull it to about what you see mine, thats just about the right relieved tension to still have a working sear and a light sear at the same time.

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        Make sure that you polish all your internals including where all your trigger mechanics go...this is important to make the trigger even smoother and work all the better. This trigger will still take a slight ammount of force to fire the marker...but it is a big change as you will notice. the marker is somewhat walkabe but it will take some pratice to get used to, but its not too hard to do. all in all it worked out very well and i was quite happy with the results, these same principles can be applied to the a-5 as well with just about the same result, except the a-5 is a little lighter on the pull.

well good luck and i hope it works smoothly for you, post your thoughts on this and if you try it, tell me how it worked out and if you like it.

 

 

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Edited by RaVeN - 16 October 2006 at 9:44am

ions are like mustangs...alot of people have them but not many know how to use them...
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I tried it out and it seems to work pretty good for my A-5 so far, but I havent Aired it up yet, so far I have just been testing it blank. with doing it on my A-5 I did a couple things a little different, such as for the post trigger pull stop I actually put tape around the safety, and instead of putting the tape on the bottom of the power tube for the pre-trigger stop, I put it on the top of the trigger, so I dont got to worry about if it might come off when taking out the power tube.
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cool, when you air it up and try it out let me know how it goes, when i aired up my 98 (which leaks like hell) i had a problem with it so i couldnt get a good steam...but a few times it felt like i was getting 14 or so bps before the bolt would be dumb and not latch, though i fixed the problem i have no air left...lol

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im gunna have to try this
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Well I just tried Airing up my A-5 which I did some of the above to, it works much better than before.

at first I had a little trouble because my trigger spring wasnt quite up to snuff,I had in a VERY weak trigger return spring, so my trigger would stick in the back possition, so I just put in a slightly stronger spring (still much lighter than the stock return spring) and it worked like a charm. my trigger pull is much easier than before. and with the pre/post trigger stops, the gun is now Quasi-walkable. I'm not the greatest at walking so I couldnt get it going really good but with a bit of practice i'm sure it will be much better. also, I could probably make it even more walkable if I mess with the sear spring a little. I'm going to keep the regular one just the way it is in case I need to go back, but im gonna try a couple different springs to make it so its an easier pull while still catching the rear bolt consitantly.

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im glad it worked out well, good work

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thats a really cool idea, and if it works that well i think this should be stuck somewhere so it doesnt get lost. just an idea. ill try it when i get home from college on my 98 since i only have my ion with me.
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would this work with a r/t or would it be pointless???
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pointless.
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