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Actually, I think the "pedo" bit is WAY oversold. 

Mark Foley is not a pedophile.

Or at least there is no evidence of that.  Pedophiles like children.  16- and 17- year-olds are not children.  As a legal matter they may be jailbait, but they are hardly children.  If you like girls or boys that have passed puberty, then you aren't a pedophile

Statutory rape =/= pedophilia

And, of course, the age of consent in DC is 16, which is also the minimum age for pages (makes you wonder...)  And, of course, no actual sex occurred.  So I don't see what laws were violated.  Sexual harassment, and lots of it, of course, but that isn't a crime.

So, IMO - Mark Foley is definitely a Dirty Old Man and a serious closet case, and he massively abused his position of power, but pedophile?  I don't think so.

If lusting after 16-year-olds makes you a pedophile, I hereby declare the entire adult world population pedophiles.

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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:


If lusting after 16-year-olds makes you a pedophile, I hereby declare the entire adult world population pedophiles.

or nambla

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NAMBLA folks think 16 is WAY too old.  Which is my point exactly.

Heck, 16 is at or above the age of consent in most countries around the world, and about half of the US states.

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Yeah, "pedophile" is a highly abused term.  I've known people that think an 18 year old dating a 17 year old is a pedophile.
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Originally posted by oreomann33 oreomann33 wrote:

They should have put P for the pedo party.

For after all what's man in nature? A central point in between nothing & all, infinitely far from understanding either.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Galm </\> Zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2006 at 9:18am

Brian fellows has a point though I hate that, on of my idiot GF's thought that before we started dateing, why I dated her I'll never know, friggen airhead but hot.

For after all what's man in nature? A central point in between nothing & all, infinitely far from understanding either.

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What I want to know, is where ABC got their mits on the messages?

 



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Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

What I want to know, is where ABC got their mits on the messages?

I'm sure we'll learn more about this over time.

It does seem quite obvious, however, that somebody somewhere made a timing decision on the release.  Whether that was ABC or somebody else, somebody clearly thought this was the best time.

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Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

What I want to know, is where ABC got their mits on the messages?

I'm sure we'll learn more about this over time.

It does seem quite obvious, however, that somebody somewhere made a timing decision on the release.  Whether that was ABC or somebody else, somebody clearly thought this was the best time.

THAT I don't doubt for an instant..

if it turns out that this information was gleaned through dishonest means, or intercepted somehow, I want to know how come it is acceptable to use such methods to nail a political foe to a wall, but when the president tries to initiate a similar program on a larger scale, for security purposes it becomes a violation of civil rights.

 



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14 in Canada. WOO!
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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

If lusting after 16-year-olds makes you a pedophile,
I hereby declare the entire adult world population pedophiles.




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Sporx lusts after 16 year old girls. And the world rejoices
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Sporx lusts after 16 year old girls. And the world
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i'm only 17...soon to be legal. what can I say?
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Originally posted by sporx sporx wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Sporx lusts after 16 year old girls. And the world
rejoices

i'm only 17...soon to be legal. what can I say?


Yes?

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Originally posted by sporx sporx wrote:

i'm only 17...soon to be legal. what can I say?

What state are you in?

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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by sporx sporx wrote:


i'm only 17...soon to be legal. what can I say?

What state are you in?


Missouri. why?
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Originally posted by sporx sporx wrote:

Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by sporx sporx wrote:


i'm only 17...soon to be legal. what can I say?

What state are you in?


Missouri. why?

Age of consent in Mizzourah is 17.

(14 if the other person is under 21)

Congratulations - you are legal.

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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by sporx sporx wrote:

Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by sporx sporx wrote:


i'm only 17...soon to be legal. what can I say?

What state are you in?


Missouri. why?


Age of consent in Mizzourah is 17.


(14 if the other person is under 21)


Congratulations - you are legal.


They've been lying to us this whole time.
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That's what I've been saying.  The age of consent is 18 in only 14 states or so.  In most states it is 16 or 17, and most also have "Romeo and Juliet" rules that bring it down even further if both people are young.

This whole focus on 18 is way oversold.

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