I thought they stopped this

No, that's why I stopped.

But thanks for bringing it up out of nowhere for the umpteenth time.

Edit: That was almost a year ago as well.

Edited by SuperXero - 17 September 2006 at 9:26pm

I didn't say that I was the ultimate citizen, but to act like you're too good to lay down your life for your nation, when you're really not going to do your country any better otherwise (if either of the 3 guys I quoted develops a more efficient fuel system or something revolutionary like that, I will rescind my statement), then yes, I do hold myself over that.

"A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other." - John Stuart Mill

Edit: It's hard to put that whole ordeal in the past and try to push on as a better person when people like you bring it up.

Edited by SuperXero - 17 September 2006 at 9:43pm

Perhaps I miscommunicated/got off track, but what I meant was more along the lines of; if it's necessary to die for my country, then I would. That guy at the landfill may or may not, most people I know would say no and then spew out some leftist anti-bush argument that has no relation to the argument. What I meant about revolutionary inventions was that, sure if you decide to shirk your patriotic duty when called upon, then create something to better humanity, then good for you, but if you decide you're too important to consider dying for your nation, and go on living a mundane life filling a role that anyone could, then, don't feel you have deserved the freedoms your are granted and guaranteed by people who will.

Edited by SuperXero - 17 September 2006 at 9:58pm

SuperXero wrote: Perhaps I miscommunicated/got off track, but what I meant was more along the lines of; if it's necessary to die for my country, then I would. That guy at the landfill may or may not, most people I know would say no and then spew out some leftist anti-bush argument that has no relation to the argument.

That hasn't entered the equation yet. Don't try to rationalize someone elses disagreement with death by blaming their political views against your favorite president. There are hundreds and hundreds of reasons why people dont want to die, and they're different for each person.
What if theres a guy with two little kids at home, and their mom either died from say...cancer, or divorced/ moved, etc, so she isnt there.
Should that guy go die for his country, cause it's the heroic thing to do, leaving his two kids parentless? If he stayed to raise them, that's anti-bush nonsense?

SuperXero wrote: TEHGANGSTER wrote: sinisterNorth wrote: Destruction wrote: I'd rather live for my country. same here You guys sound like you think you're doing your country a favour.

heh heh, yeah, maybe like living to fight, rather than dying for science dumbass

Everyone now refer to superxero as Freedomxero. Or maybe superpatriot. Whichever works.

i think it had summat to do with freedomxerosuperpatriot......