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So you guys want to mourn 9/11 everyday? Alright, but if you do that, then the terrorists did their job correctly.

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The point is, im sick and bloody tired of people doing what people do here, they twist it and turn it into foreign policy or whatever argument they want. They use it to justify all sorts of things. It upsets me when people turn it into some pitty party. Look at all these threads here? The freaking movies for gods sake.

And yes, i am more "worthy" of morning today. Answer me this, did you cry for anyone you knew today?
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Wait wait wait. I have to cry today to be an American and mourn the losses of today?

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No, but I did mourn for the country. Did you cry when my closest was murdered? Probably not, but I don't go around yelling at people if they want to remember her.

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Nope. Morning today isnt about being an american, or being a good american or whatever. Its about the loss of life that ocurred. People use this day as a personal pick me up.

"Oh god, wow, yeah that was so sad, those people are evil, im glad im not like that. Im such a good person im so thoughtful, i know, ile make a thread to show everyone how thoughful and good natured i am."
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No one uses this day as a pick me up. I don't know where you're getting this from.

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Originally posted by TheDune TheDune wrote:

No, but I did mourn for the country. Did you cry when my closest was murdered? Probably not, but I don't go around yelling at people if they want to remember her.



No i didnt cry. Its a shame she was kill, but im not going to say that im morning. It would be an insult to you if i asumed i could possibly think that i feel a fraction of what you feel by you losing your friend.

Now multiply that by 34.
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It's actually a common perception. It's a "this is my tragedy and you can't feel bad" mentality. Many people have it, such as my father had it when his father died in combat.

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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Originally posted by TheDune TheDune wrote:

No, but I did mourn for the country. Did you cry when my closest was murdered? Probably not, but I don't go around yelling at people if they want to remember her.



No i didnt cry. Its a shame she was kill, but im not going to say that im morning. It would be an insult to you if i asumed i could possibly think that i feel a fraction of what you feel by you losing your friend.

Now multiply that by 34.

But it isn't an insult. I don't take it deeply. I do my thing and let people do theirs, that's the point. No one is trying to match you, just like I'm sure you're not trying to match how widows and widowers and fatherless children are feeling today. If that's the case, then drop it and let people mourn in their manner.

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Originally posted by TheDune TheDune wrote:

It's actually a common perception. It's a "this is my tragedy and you can't feel bad" mentality. Many people have it, such as my father had it when his father died in combat.



Good analysis, thats how i feel too, to a degree.
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I will admidt I cried today.

The first time I did, about this day, since '01.

Fire Dept. funerals do that to me.

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Yup. For some reason i think cop funerals, fire fighter funerals and armed forces funerals are always exceptionaly beautiful in their, i dont know the word for it. But i want to say solumness.
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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Yup. For some reason i think cop funerals, fire fighter funerals and armed forces funerals are always exceptionaly beautiful in their, i dont know the word for it. But i want to say solumness.


Its the intricate symbolisim.

I do not know much about police funerals, but I know the things involved in a Fire Dept. I have seen them first hand. They are very deeply rooted.

Its not just 9-11, any memorial for fallen Firefighters gets to me, but 9-11 especially.

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I vaugly remember my great grandfathers funeral. He was a retired full colonel. There was one honor guard with the old guard, 3rd ID stationed at arlington cemetary that i still remembered. The way he walked with the flag. He was even, only his legs moved, every movement planned and flawless. It was beautiful.
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With all the FD funerals I have seen, there is a color guard, with the American flag, the department flag, an axe, and a pullhook.

Coffin is carried on the back of an Engine. All active duty firefighter wear dress uniform except they cover their crosses with a black band. Two ladder trucks extend their boom and fly an American flag between them. The coffin has the flag of the department on it. A bell is rang 3 times. A single bagpiper plays Amazing Grace.

The last thing is all stations in the city are sent a final dispatch. The alarm sounds, and the dispatcher annoucnes the person's name, the time and date of their last call on duty, and time they were buried.

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I was too young to see a lot of what went on at my grandfathers funeral. But the honor guard that guards the tomb of the unknown soldier. I used to be able to watch him for like an hour. But now ide have more apreciation for the presicion in his walk, walking like that, with no up and down movement of the head is very difficult to do for very long, it causes shin splints.
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I was going to make a gif of the twin towers exploding/caving under and write the words AL-Qwned!! on it but I was too lazy and I figured it was a bit unsensitive and I would get lots of comments about how disrespectful it was.

Oh did anyone else get the day off from school?
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Nope, i still had work. Helped teach a class on marskmanship and drove laser training stuff around in a humvee today. FUN. I loved it.
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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Ok, so, i really hate it when people type in all caps, but ive gotta do it..

STOP BLOODY MORNING FOR ONE BLOODY DAY THEN PICKING UP WHERE YOU LEFT OFF ON SEPTEMBER 10TH! STOP ACTING LIKE YOU WERE THERE, STOP ACTING LIKE YOU KNEW ANYONE WAS THERE, AND STOP ACTING LIKE YOU LOST SOMEONE. IT GETS BLOODY OLD! WE DONT NEED YOUR FAKE HOLLOW SYMPATHY. KEEP IT TO YOURSELF, DONT DO THIS CRAP ONCE A YEAR TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF! Its just as bad as going to church twice a year. Christmas and easter. Just bloody cut it out.

DO YOU THINK YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS THERE! DO YOU THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO KNEW PEOPLE WHO DIED!

I was there
, and not a day goes by that I don't feel the pain of that day! And that is a major reason I joined the military.

And yes, I did cry for someone that day.



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