Creative Zen Vision...

heh... the pros(obviously comparing ipod to the vision): fm tuner, fm recorder, voice recorder via built in mic, larger screen, higher resolution, more colors in the screen, compact flash slot, file format compatibility(avi, divx/xvid, wmv for videos), longer battery life w/ larger batter upgrade available, removable battery, podcast compatible now, some might praise the sync function with outlook.. oh, and the built in speaker is pretty awesome.

cons: noticably bigger than the iPod, duh, no 60GB capacity, somewhat limited viewing angle, and that's about it.

in my experience i have noticed the viewing angle being a bit picky, but then again i watch it to see the video or picture on the screen myself, i don't have people gather around so it isn't a problem. i upgraded my battery to the larger one. i get 26 hours of music on it and they say 9 hours of video, i have reached almost 10 on a single charge. i used to listen to howard stern at school in the mornings with it, but he went off air so i haven't used the tuner since. the built in mic could be a little more sensitive IMO, but hey, it does a damn good job for its size. what i would really like to see is in-line recording.

all in all it is a great player, well worth the money for it. oh, and it will not sync/connect to a mac, just getting that out there if you planned on using one with it. personally with the rumors of a new version coming out i would wait to see what direction Creative heads.. i hear the new "Vision W" will be a 4.2" widescreen with a better viewing angle, 60GB capacity, and about, if not, the same price *obviously the 60GB will be $100 more than the 30GB model* so again, i would wait to see how creative plays it. but if you just can't wait, the current Zen Vision is fine by me.


btw if you want the iPod size, check out the Vision M


Edited by High Voltage - 04 September 2006 at 1:24am

Dont get an iPod.  The screens are too delicate, you HAVE to use iTunes to download music, and the battery goes after 2-3 years and it costs about as much as a new iPod to get it replaced since it has an internal battery.  Plus, the Zen has better reviews everywhere you go...oh and if I'm not mistaken, its battery life is much better, it has more memory for the price, and has a built in tuner.

MilSimBaller wrote: Dont get an iPod.  The screens are too delicate, you HAVE to use iTunes to download music, and the battery goes after 2-3 years and it costs about as much as a new iPod to get it replaced since it has an internal battery.  Plus, the Zen has better reviews everywhere you go...oh and if I'm not mistaken, its battery life is much better, it has more memory for the price, and has a built in tuner.

Uhh.. you don't have to use iTunes to download music...

When comparing the iPod 30/60g video to the Zen Vision you are really comparing a music-first player to a video first player. And as HV said, Macs and Zens don't mix.

i just got a gigabeat f10 and its sexy

ok maybe not 2, but it did for how much i used it

I think he means that you have to use iTunes to put downoaded files on to the iPod. I don't like it either.

my brother has a Creative Zen Vision.....2 actually and has never had problems with either, yet i have had problems with 3 seperate ipods, Creative Zen is deffinately the way to go

Get the Vision M. The vision M can handle lots of video types, while the ipod video has to be converted to a special format. I like ipods and all, but the vision m wins.

I hate my ipod. I wish I never bought it.

actually, they say the resolution on that Vision W is 480 x 272. i don't know if i would make the drop from my current 640 x 480 to that.

don't get me wrong, the WQVGA display is sexy and the 60GB hard drive would be nice, but that drop in resolution is a major turnoff. i like viewing pictures that i shot myself, they would look like ass on the new one.


Edited by High Voltage - 04 September 2006 at 12:27pm