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    Posted: 20 June 2006 at 3:52am
Dean guitars are some of the most underrated out there....they're really good guitars with lots of output.
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Well all together my little set-up is going to cost around $320 which isn't to bad, but... I'm only starting out so I don't need Worlock or somthing.

My litte set-up comes with.

  • Horizon Speaker Cable 16g 20ft
  • Fender 351 pick pack .73mm
  • Musicians friend's Elite Acustic Gig Bag
  • Drive CD 200B 20W Bass Combo(not the biggest amp, but... I only need it for practice)
  • Dean 09 4-string Bass
  • Fender impact guitar Strap(Black Skull)
  • Korg CA-40 Electronic Chromatic Tuner
I think thats basically all I need.


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Starter packs are an oxymoron. Why start a beginner out with a toneless, unreliable, hard to play, and basically useless musical instrument? You'll pay about $150 for a decent (I use the term loosely) starter kit, when $250 will get you a fairly decent acoustic to learn on, and if you have to have an electric Epiphone makes nice guitars for under $300, and you can find a Mexican Strat for like $250-$400 (the average player won't be able to tell the difference between a Mexican and American strat just by playing). Then you can get a halfway decent amp from Marshall, Fender, or Crate for around $200-$300.

The problem is that most people don't realize that music is an investment, just like paintball, or cheap Asian hookers. The more you put in, the more you get out. Good equipment doesn't come cheap-but you'll never really start playing until you find that tone you want.

I've been playing for ten years, and I just now got the tone I want (three thousand dollars in amps later...).

And on a side note-I've got a Squier Strat I beat up on occasionally for a "rough practice" guitar. Actually doesn't sound half bad-it's all in how you play it.

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good choice, ive never been fond of "starter packs" ever since my squire screwed up. plus, the stuff that came with it sucked. im in the process of talking my parents into letting me do the payment plan for the epiphone i want. that way, ill have cash to up my rainmaker and cocker as well.

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Well I decided not to go with that Epiphone Bass, I talked to my neighbor who has been playing Bass since christ was a small Child(he's the one who is basically going to teach me) and he told me Dean makes some really good Bass's he has a Dean Edge 5-string and he tolled me it's held up very well since he's had it.

Also he tolled me those "beginner packs" are kinda cheezy and not to well thrown together(tuners are rough, and the Amps that come with them are usally only 10Wats and blow easy) and said its better to buy everything seperate. So... looks like I'm going with a Dean 09 4-string hopefully everything works out.

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Epiphone makes decent basses.  But if you want a good bass that will last you a long time, I suggest ESP LTD.  I have one, and I love it.  My 254 puts out great tone, and is very adjustable tone-wise because of the active electronics and pickups.
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I know this isn't my thread, but how good are the Epiphone Bass's? I'm thinking about Buying a Starter kit that they make, but not sure... if Epiphone is as good as some of you guys say I see why not...

well anyway, here's a link to it.

Epiphone EB-0 kit
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so there's hope for me yet! i dont want an ibanez, i was just throwin that out there.

small history:
-acoustic guitar: $20 walmart. i was 8. didnt even try. got rid of it.

-electric bass: ibanez, broke of its own accord. dont want another.

-electric guitar: squire strat, my friend dissected it to see if he could puthumbuckers  on it. still worked, but not well. sold it to sister, where it broke soon after. its okay, i never liked it...

-decided to get epiphone. lookin at a nice hollow body. i never wanted to "shred" or use crazy distortion, so for a mellow tone, im looking at the hollow body or a Les Paul model. both about the same price.

so ibanez=crap, and i dont like the fender/squire style. LP's and archtops for me.

 



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Ibanez makes some decent bass amplifiers, I have one to practice at home, and I like it a lot.  The guitars... not so much.
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Go for a crate amp. I have one, and it's great. Also, if you get the ibanez, I'll never like you.

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from what im hearing, there is still some debate on the amps. ill just mess around with them and figure out which one i like the best.
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Marshall are so overrated.  Personally, I like Crate amps.
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im getting a lot of great responses on this question, its all greatly appreciated. I think i found a nice epiphone i like (the one at the top of this page), and if all goes well, i can get it fairly soon. As for an amp, the one ive got now is crap, so i might head down to my dad's friend's pawn shop. i can get some good amps there for next to nothing, since he gives us a major discount. ill check out the marshall.

thanks again for the help.

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Ibanez guitars are hit and miss. You'll either get a really good one, or a really crappy one. I believe Satriani plays a custom Ibanez...I could be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure he does.

It all goes back to the tone you want though-most Ibanez six-strings are built completely with distortion in mind-that's why most pro Ibanez' have humbuckers. I'd still say, in my opinion, that the Epi is your best bet.

Just remember that no matter what guitar you buy, if you have a crappy amp then it doesn't matter anyway.

You can pick up a Marshall VS100 off eBay for $150-$200, and I played through one for literally years. They're valvestates-which means they're a solid state amp with a tube pre-amp. So you get a slight warm-up time, but the tone is smooth and responsive like a real tube amp. Plus, it's a 100 watt 3 channel amp, so you got plenty of volume, an overdrive, and a more drive. And it's a freakin marshall-so you got quality.

My recommendation for you-An epi of some sort,a Marshall VS, and a ferret.

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Ibanez. It's a reliable company. I have an Ibanez bass, I love it. Only cost like 300 bucks but plays so well.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cedric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2006 at 11:03am
Hmm. I've never played one. My best advice is for you to head down to your nearest guitar center and just play all of the hollow bodies that interest you. You'll find one that will just click with you.

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Yeah epiphone are great guitars. I bought my Les Paul off of Musician Friends. 
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See what happens when you contradict my advice?  A lot of other people come in and tell you the exact same thing 
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Go with an epiphone, they are great guitars for the price.
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