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CarbineKid
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:33pm |
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I just read all 8 pages, and it helps me remember why I do not engage in most of the posts on here. Anyhow please read and enjoy...(link not working, but I posted text)
Marchers say gringos, not illegals, have to go Activists turn tables, offer no amnesty for 'non-indigenous' on 'our continent' http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=49482 WASHINGTON – While debates about guest-worker programs for illegal aliens take place in the corridors of power, in the streets of America's big cities no amnesty is being offered by activists calling for the expulsion of most U.S. citizens from their own country. While politicians debate the fate of some 12 million people residing in the U.S. illegally, the Mexica Movement, one of the organizers of the mass protest in Los Angeles this week, has already decided it is the "non-indigenous," white, English-speaking U.S. citizens of European descent who have to leave what they call "our continent." The pictures and captions tell the story. "This is our continent, not yours!" exclaimed one banner. "We are indigenous! The only owners of this continent!" said another. "If you think I'm illegal because I'm a Mexican, learn the true history, because I'm in my homeland," read another sign. "One of the more negative parts of the march was when American flags were passed out to make sure the marchers were looked on as part of 'America,'" said the group's commentary on the L.A. rally. Both Rep. James Sensebrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and a proponent of tougher border security, and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger were caricatured as Nazis by the group on its posters and banners. The group insists the indigenous people of the continent were the victims of genocide – a campaign of extermination that killed, according to one citation, 95 percent of their population, or 33 million people. Another citation on the same website claims the toll was 70 million to 100 million. The only solution, says the Mexica Movement, is to expel the invaders of the last 500 years, force them to pay reparations and return the continent to its rightful heirs. The platform of the group illustrates the diverse – and sometimes extreme – agendas of those participating in the mass mobilizations that have been seen largely as protests against efforts to curb illegal immigration. Some of those involved, including the Mexica Movement, have much bigger goals than stopping a piece of legislation before Congress. The Mexica Movement has big issues with many other equally radical groups participating in the massive, united-front rallies. The group makes a point of distinguishing its goals and objectives from others, such as the separatist Aztlan Movement. Aztlan, the mythical birthplace of the Aztecs, is regarded in Chicano folklore as an area that includes California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas. The movement seeks to create a sovereign, Spanish-speaking state, "Republica del Norte," or the Republic of the North, that would combine the American Southwest with the northern Mexican states and eventually merge with Mexico. A group called "La Voz de Aztlan," the Voice of Aztlan, identifies Mexicans in the U.S. as "America's Palestinians." Many Mexicans see themselves as part of a transnational ethnic group known as "La Raza," the race. A May editorial on the website, with a dateline of Los Angeles, Alta California, declares that "both La Raza and the Palestinians have been displaced by invaders that have utilized military means to conquer and occupy our territories." Others in the coalition hope to see a "reconquest" of the American southwest by Mexico. This would not likely take place through military action, they say, but rather through a slow process of migration – both legal and illegal. Edited by CarbineKid - 29 March 2006 at 11:37pm |
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DBibeau855
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:39pm |
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Meh, they are ilegles because they jumped the border. They can protest all they want. Now i hope the bill passes.
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Posted: 30 March 2006 at 12:04am |
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woah, who let carbinekid out of his cage?
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cadet_sergeant
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Posted: 30 March 2006 at 9:01am |
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Pump Scout those arnt pictures of the walk out. i'll see if a friend of mine got pictures since the majority of Students walked out during the second lunch and im in first lunch. i've heard as many as 700 people left, i'm going to say maybe 10% went to the capital and that is a high estimat the rest when to the park and smoked pot. another walk out is planned for friday, and again april 10th, i'm making a bigger sticker and i'm going to wear it everyday. Edited by cadet_sergeant - 30 March 2006 at 9:02am |
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Posted: 30 March 2006 at 9:11am |
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sorry for having to post twice i dont got skills like Mbro. Edited by cadet_sergeant - 30 March 2006 at 9:11am |
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Posted: 30 March 2006 at 9:55am |
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You'll make a great investigative reporter some day.
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Posted: 30 March 2006 at 11:35am |
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yes they did support a bill that is alot better but imo not good enough. many of you are not from Hispanic decent and many more probably know little about what is going on. that is why it is easy to say "pass the bill." yet it is hard to understand how people say this when their daily lives depend on these people. and it is also hard to imagine how many of these people support a racist bill. yes racist bill. sure not every person that comes into the country is a mexican, latin, cuban, etc decent. many are from asian countries or middle eastern (very very few). but the fact is that this bill is aimed at the majority of the people already here in the US and the people coming into the US. rather than make new policies and BETTER policies, white people that know nothing about what is going on say "pass the bill." i wish that all the illegal people would just leave for a week and watch the US economy slowly start to take a down fall. **edited** just looking at my resturant, we would be down to 2 cooks (back of the house people of course). now if you really think that this bill is going to pass and that these illegals are just going to go away, i am afraid to say, you don't live in this world. seriously, how hard is it to just come up with a bill that makes some progress forward? **edited** this conservative government that bush has implemented. |
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cadet_sergeant
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Posted: 30 March 2006 at 2:54pm |
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there are a lot of good people that were not able to live in this coutry legaly, and i cant blame them for wanting to come here. how ever there are legal and illegal ways to do it and i prefer that they come legaly, both for there benifit (higher wages, better treatment ect.) and ours. as you said passing the bill wont solve the problem and i agree, but blaming Bush when Republicans hold the majority in both houses is wrong. if you dont like it make things change, help a canidate you support with his campain, or respectfully oposse the other canidate, saying profaine words wont help you. just trying to help you out. Edited by cadet_sergeant - 30 March 2006 at 3:00pm |
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Posted: 30 March 2006 at 2:57pm |
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Well, if they are going to call for the expulsion of every white person of euro decent, i have to give them the middle finger and make their parents fellons. Thats how it goes.
But when i think about it, i love the idea of making imigration a little easier, but not letting everyone and their grandmother in. If youve been in jail or prison, our country should be closed to you. |
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