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Jack Carver
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 9:13pm |
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How about the chances of you being affected by the crappy economy after another terrorist attack that gets us involved in the middle east and borks the oil industry? |
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Gabster08
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 9:42pm |
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lol i know. i cant help it. it comes naturally. |
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Hades
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 9:45pm |
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And since we are trying to find other alternatives, I dont see that to be that big of a risk. Plus I am already paying nearly 3 dollars a gallon for gas. If I had to pay 20 for millions of people to live better lives, so be it. Edited by Hades - 28 March 2006 at 9:46pm |
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Clark Kent
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 11:35pm |
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I go away for a couple of hours... I would respond to posts, but frankly the ignorance in the last 4 pages has given me a headache...! |
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djrox
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 9:20am |
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I think this debate can be ended very easily. The term ILLEGAL should be enough for people to get people thinking the RIGHT way.
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cadet_sergeant
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 9:54am |
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yesturday our school had a walk out, not supprising to me a overwelming majority of the people had no clue what they where walking out for. when they walked out they where supposed to go protest in front of the state capital building, i only know of one person who was protesting infront of the capital, and that person didnt walk out during the walk out he stayed finished school then went. on the news last night they interviewed people who where protesting, it was horable because many of the people (21 or older in this group) didnt know what they where protesting. i support they're right to protest, but not when they dont know they're reason for protesting, so today im wearing a sticker that says "ingorance will not prevail" meaning that they should be educated about what they are protesting, before they protest. |
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Clark Kent
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 9:55am |
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Ok... So - in Afghanistan (and elsewhere) it is illegal for a Muslim to convert to Christianity. This is a capital crime, punishable by death. I presume you agree that we should execute all Christians in Afghanistan? In 1955 it was illegal for black people to sit in the front of the bus - I presume you agree that Rosa Parks was just a common criminal? The point is rather obvious to anybody with a brain - just because something is illegal doesn't mean that it is wrong, any more than legality makes it right. That's not to say that laws should be ignored, but it is silly to declare the discussion over just because of a current law. |
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Templar Knight
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:56am |
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I have'nt read all 8 pages of coments yet. One thing I see here is we need to stop all illegal immergrants, no one seems to be saying, help them up to a better standard of life in our country. I don't hear any one talking about the people who hire them, except that they will be hurt by it, should'nt the people who hire illegals be made to suffer also, they are breaking the law just as much as the immigrants. They kmow it is wrong from the hand shake, yet they have thier bottom line to think about, I would realy like to give thier bottom line a swift kick. And lets think how the true immigrant with famly feels, take a walk in thier shoes, you have mouths to feed and you now there is not enough jobs in your country to take care of them, you need to go where the money is. We as americans even to this, we jump from job to job to make a better life, now add in the facter that you now it is illegal, you don't want to to it but you must you have a sick child you LOVE with all your heart, you need to take of them. You have to keep an eye out fo rthe law you scury like a mouse in the shadows, yet once you were a respected person. Do you know how this can feel, SO LETS NOT HURT THE BUSINESSES WHO KNOWINGLY HIRE THEM, LETS NOT FIND A WAY TO BRING THE HONEST ILLEGAL WHO WANTS TO BE APART OF OUR WORLD AND COUNTRY TO A BETTER LEVAL, LIVING LIKE THIS MUST TRULY SUCK FOR ANYONE WHO AS MORALS AND A CONCOINCE, (YES I KNOW I'M AM RAISING MY VOICE RIGHT NOW). I'M TIRED OF HEARING THAT ALL ILLEAGALS ARE BAD AND NEED TO BE SENT BACK, I KNOW A FEW PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE AND CRY WHEN THEY TELL THE HOROR STORIES, HAVE TO HIDE OUT IN CELLER, LIVE IN BARNS, HAVING TO PUT GUNS IN THE HANDS OF THEIR KIDS, THIS IS ALL IN TEIR HOME COUNTRIES. PEOLPE STEP UP HELP THE ONES WHO TRULY COME HERE WITH THE INTENT TO BE APART OF THE USA, ALL OF ARE ROOTS AIN THIS COUNTRTY COME FROM BIENG ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. These are my OPIONS and THERE will BE more.
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hwayhzrd
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 1:34pm |
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Our borders are a joke and we are simply begging for a repeat of 9/11 or worse but ignoring the problem. I have no problem with immigration. That is how this nation became what it is today, by being the melting pot of the world. I do not fault someone who wants a better life. I know I would certainly srive for that same goal in that position. However, we MUST stop turning a blind eye to literally MILLIONS of illegal, unregistered aliens that are swarming over our borders. The immigration system certainly needs an overhaul, have no doubt. However, until that occurs, the present policies and laws MUST BE UPHELD. To not do so invites anarchy, damages our national economy and threatens our national security. I wish I had the article in front of me, because I know Clark will ask for it, but a very large number of aliens coming across the Mexican border are from other, non-hispanic countries. Our borders are hemmoraging, and this wound must be closed and the immigration polices re-evaluated to stabilize this situation. Some of the most angry people in this situation? Immigrants who did it the right way, at great personal sacrifice who see others simply sneak across the border and blend into the masses. This government can scream bloody murder about national security, but unless you have a controllable, secure border, it's a joke to call yourself a "country" or "nation". FLAME ON! |
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Clark Kent
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 4:42pm |
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Heh - I won't ask for the article, since I have read the same thing several places myself. It's mostly Mexicans, of course, but loads of people from all over the world come across the borders, both North and South. And, actually, if I were going to sneak across, I would come from the North, since that border is completely unguarded. As long as you don't do it during hunting season, it is perfectly safe to come down through Wisconsin or Michigan. |
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kuhndog599
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 5:04pm |
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10%of the illegals that make it across the border are troublemakers. now thats a lot of troublemakers. i think we should at least enforce it a little more.
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kuhndog599
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 5:07pm |
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 5:07pm |
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True, true, but could that not be said for home-grown troublemakers as well? |
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Gabster08
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 5:37pm |
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i am guessing u live in dc. what school do you go to. |
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 5:39pm |
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 9:02pm |
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I managed to take a wrong turn in Maine a few years ago and once all the radio stations turned to French I quickly found out I'd crossed the border without even knowing it. I did however see one border patrol truck on the way back. He was driving along between two logging trucks I was passing(I was doing well over 100mph, having clear straight roads and no authority figures in sight) and as far as I know he never tried to pull me over or do anything. Maybe he just couldn't catch me in a ford ranger. I believe a few of the hijackers came in through Canada. Edited by rednekk98 - 29 March 2006 at 9:08pm |
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 9:34pm |
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Are these pics of the walkout?
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 9:38pm |
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Man, good. Who cares, i know a couple people that are convicted felons, its not as bad as it seems...
Lol. Just kidding, their lives are over. |
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 9:38pm |
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That is a really cool photo.
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kuhndog599
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:14pm |
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hway yeah we are beggin for another 9 11
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