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    Posted: 22 March 2006 at 5:17pm
In Sociology today, some kids were presenting their case study on "Terrorism Against Americans" and they went to some piece of crap website and made that class sit through a video 'proving' how we planned the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon and how it was a missle and not a plane and all that crap.



SO I got in an arguement with some chick behind me on whether or not it could be real or not.


Seriosuly.. can someone tell me WHY our government would plan an attack to kill 3000 innocent Americans and other foreigners, then shoot a missle at the Pentagon to cover it up, JUST so we could invade Afghanistan?

She sure as hell couldn't.....


Edited by Linus - 22 March 2006 at 5:19pm

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Yea it doesnt make sense but why did they leak that CIA agents name and ruin her life?
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Because conspiracies are fun.
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let it go. if anything tell them to call the families of those passengers and convince THEM it was a missile...
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It would have been more interesting if they'd tried using the conspiracy theory used in a lot of arab media, that it was an international Jewish conspiracy to get the US to attack muslims. That, or prove the Holocaust was a myth propogated for the purpose of setting up the state of Isreal.
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I think if we went into Afghanistan without 9/11 the war still would have had major support from the country. I mean it's not like terrorism is gonna stop by itself. It was only a matter of time till we took action.
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Well, anything is possible.

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I stil think it's rediculous that they made calls on their cell phones at 30,000 feet... it's one in a million even one call would go through. That and the total lack of debris around the pentagon, no plane being present, and the hole being tiny for a 757 (or 747, whichever)....other than that...


I admit, yes, it doesnt make sense anyone would ever do that to themselves, ever....but cmon...

They found that dude who apparently hijacked the plane's passport on the ground by the towers...so it survived the towering einferno....but all but 1 black box was destroyed? Black boxes are amazingly industructable, even pure jet fuel burning them wouldnt ruin them. They're designed to withstand plane crashes, etc... yet ALL of them failed on the same day. I dont think so.
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Well, I actually sat down and watched that one two hour documentary on how it was fake. A lot of the stuff made sense.

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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

but all but 1 black box was destroyed? Black boxes are amazingly industructable, even pure jet fuel burning them wouldnt ruin them. They're designed to withstand plane crashes, etc... yet ALL of them failed on the same day. I dont think so.
The Twin Towers were built to take a direct plane hit. No one, NOT EVEN terrorist, ever dreamt that they would collapse, let alone BOTH.

Need I say more?

Cedric.. whats this "Documentry"?

Is it an actual "Tiwi of Austrailia" documentry, or a "Fahreinheit 9/11" """""documentry"""""

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

but all but 1 black box was destroyed? Black boxes are amazingly industructable, even pure jet fuel burning them wouldnt ruin them. They're designed to withstand plane crashes, etc... yet ALL of them failed on the same day. I dont think so.
The Twin Towers were built to take a direct plane hit. No one, NOT EVEN terrorist, ever dreamt that they would collapse, let alone BOTH.

Need I say more?

Cedric.. whats this "Documentry"?

Is it an actual "Tiwi of Austrailia" documentry, or a "Fahreinheit 9/11" """""documentry"""""


Yeah you do need to say more, how was what you said relevant to what choopie said.

And the documentary is called "loose change" try to find the updated version
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:



Cedric.. whats this "Documentry"?

Is it an actual "Tiwi of Austrailia" documentry, or a "Fahreinheit 9/11" """""documentry"""""

Well, Fahrenheit 9/11 is a documentary.. But the one I watched was here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848
Granted, it's on google videos, but it is well done. It was an interesting thing to watch. The video footage makes the towers out to implode due to a demolition set up.

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linus... they were built to withstand a plane crash yes... but not that big of a plane w/ that much fuel
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

but all but 1 black box was destroyed? Black boxes are amazingly industructable, even pure jet fuel burning them wouldnt ruin them. They're designed to withstand plane crashes, etc... yet ALL of them failed on the same day. I dont think so.
The Twin Towers were built to take a direct plane hit. No one, NOT EVEN terrorist, ever dreamt that they would collapse, let alone BOTH.

Need I say more?

Cedric.. whats this "Documentry"?

Is it an actual "Tiwi of Austrailia" documentry, or a "Fahreinheit 9/11" """""documentry"""""



So you're saying you agree? It took more than a plane hit to take down the towers? Like, how the lobby/ parking levels were demolished before the towers fell? How trustworthy people (firefighters) heard explosions throughout the building before they fell, THEN changed their minds? Yeah, they were designed to take hits, people tried to take them out before. Jet fuel cant melt steel...steel was melted.
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Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

linus... they were built to withstand a plane crash yes... but not that big of a plane w/ that much fuel
Thats what I'm saying. People claim "Explosives were used to demolish it from the inside"...

Black boxes arent indestrucatble.. they are RESTTANT to destruction, LIKE EVERYTHING.

THAT was the point I was trying to make.. sorry if it seemed to the contrary.

Edited by Linus - 22 March 2006 at 5:42pm

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That building wouldn't have fallen if the only thing that happened was a plane hitting it
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

linus... they were built to withstand a plane crash yes... but not that big of a plane w/ that much fuel


Black boxes arent indestrucatble.. they are RESTTANT to destruction, LIKE EVERYTHING.


No one said the boxes were destoryed. They were taken away super fast by government officials. And what aobut all of the wreckage being sent away before anyone had a chance to examine it?

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there's also multiple video tapes showing the impact of the pentagon, but the FBI took the tapes...if they wanted to reassure us a 747 hit it, theyd release it

*757


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Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

No one said the boxes were destoryed.
Really? Hmm.. whats this.. just a few post up...?

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

but all but 1 black box was destroyed?



Books.. whats your PROOF that there are multiple videos?

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:




Books.. whats your PROOF that there are multiple videos?


well i don't have PROOF but in an area like that there are many security cameras on top of buildings and such

what's your PROOF a 757 hit the pentagon?
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