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Jeez, don't bail out, for crying out loud.

Can't we all just get along?

hwayhzrd wrote: Jeez, don't bail out, for crying out loud. Can't we all just get along?

Not bailing, just taking a hiatus.  I'm becoming uncivil and impatient with people on the forum.  I got your p.m. and will call you for some airsoft.  Later.

Linus wrote: Tsceus to the smitty's (and good riddence) But now who can we exclaim the facts too? Everyone else either agrees with us or is incapable of finding something to back up what they are saying.. Victory to Snake/Me

Me too

Clark Kent wrote: Linus wrote: Victory to Snake/Me I disagree.  Both "sides" to this so-called discussion have, IMO, failed to do more than repeat what they hear on their favorite radio station, and have failed to provide any significant argument and/or analysis. I say everybody lost this one.

I did not sanction Linuses posting my name. When you think about it, thats all the arguements on this forum ever are, is repeating what everyone hears on the news.

brihard wrote: Fact is fact. The political stance of any news organization does not encessarily invalidate their reports, or the arguments those reports validate.

I think Clark's point was that there is never any real political discussion going on, its just a recap of the news we already all know.

amishman89 wrote:  Why cant we be friends...

Because you touch yourself at night.

Clark Kent wrote: Linus wrote: Victory to Snake/Me I disagree.  Both "sides" to this so-called discussion have, IMO, failed to do more than repeat what they hear on their favorite radio station, and have failed to provide any significant argument and/or analysis. I say everybody lost this one.

No, you are incorrect, except in regards to the triplets.

Try anywhere to find a news story or radio broadcast that puts the strory together for you like I have. The only place that I have found that even remotely links the Wilson, Plame, Libby, and Cheney charade is Wikipedia. I have watched this story unfold for two years and put it all together for myself, without the help of Rush Limbaugh, O'Reilly, or Oldsoldier.

As far as throwing out insults, what I meant what I said earlier. If you are completely ignorant of world events, but cheerlead soldiers onto their deaths based on some tidbit of information, then I hold you in contempt. If you call fact "rhetoric" then you are either a zealot or unintelligent in IMO. And, for whatever reason, if you over 17 years old and think the war is a good idea but do not enlist, then you are a coward. Nobody has the right to send someone off to die in a war that they believe in just strongly enough to let someone else fight.

And finally, Linus, it is Tschuss, not that abomination of letters you threw together. It is a bavarian German term meaning "goodbye" and is not used in other parts of Germany.

GS wrote: Try anywhere to find a news story or radio broadcast that puts the strory together for you like I have. The only place that I have found that even remotely links the Wilson, Plame, Libby, and Cheney charade is Wikipedia. I have watched this story unfold for two years and put it all together for myself, without the help of Rush Limbaugh, O'Reilly, or Oldsoldier.

1: Whats to say I haven't put together MY facts on the Iraq war for the past 3 years? I mean, if you can do it, why can't I since I've had more time and actual FACTS instead of heresay.

2: I dont listen to Rush. I know the difference from the EXTREME to the NORMAL.

3: O'Reilly in analysis, not news. He first puts out the FACTS then comments on them. If he is proven wrong, he says so. Do his "I wanna debate O'Reilly" thing or w/e it's called and lets see who wins that.

Here's food for thought: If only 34% approve of Bush, why are O'Reilly's viewership always so high? Hmm....

GS wrote: And, for whatever reason, if you over 17 years old and think the war is a good idea but do not enlist, then you are a coward.

That is one of THE MOST ignorant statements I have ever heard you say (write). I'm 17, and want to know why I don't enlist? HIGH SCHOOL. I want to graduate then go to college before I decide to do either armed forces or be a cop.

You're basically calling Dune a coward because he's a cop instead of a marine.

It's called defending the homefront. I know kid, the day he turned 17, joined the NG so he'd have experience. Good for him. I'm waiting.

GS wrote: Nobody has the right to send someone off to die in a war that they believe in just strongly enough to let someone else fight.

And as for the "Right"... War Powers Act of 1973. (I know EXACTLY what you were trying to say about that, but the common man cannot send troops where they want, so it nullifies your statement.)

Edited by Linus - 04 March 2006 at 8:18am

I can't believe I took a strike for a 17 year-old.

Well, you have something to look forward to after high school, which is military service, headed to Iraq.

Unless, of course, you are part of the detestable crowd that lets others (spelled L-I-B-E-R-A-L-S) serve for him  because the war is important enough for someone else to fight, and you to cheer on.

Hope you evolve a backbone by graduation.

Edited by goodsmitty - 04 March 2006 at 3:45pm

ok, someone lock this piece of crap. ryan, just stop with the political threads for a while. smitty's, chill yo this forum is not the most advanced culture...they have room to grow up. and it's ok for someone to hold a different view. not to sound cliche or anything, but it's what makes this such an enjoyable country. that we have the right to voice our opinion. doesn't mean people will pay attention but we have that liberty.