Creatine

Yup, because they do the job of the testes, the testes stop working and go into atrophy.

6 ' 170 lbs.

So I'm looking at the items on bulk nutrition(that site you gave me) could you suggest anything?  Or maybe just explain to me the difference between the types?

usafpilot07 wrote: So I'm looking at the items on bulk nutrition(that site you gave me) could you suggest anything?  Or maybe just explain to me the difference between the types?

How old are you, and whats your height and weight?

16 5' 11"-6' i weigh between 152-160

usafpilot07 wrote: 16 5' 11"-6' i weigh between 152-160

Your exactly my size when I started using creatine.

I'm by no means the best person to talk to on this.  But I used to weigh 155 and I weigh 180 now.

What I did was....

-- Creatine every day before lifting (during lunch, mixed in with cranberry juice)  (GNC brand, around $23 a tub which last a couple months)

--Protein Shakes and Bars, 2 shakes and a bar a day (I had body fortress which is a cheap protein brand, and doesn't taste the best, but did the job.  It had 20grams per scoop and I had to in every shake.  One tub would last a month, and it was right around $20.  The bars were expensive, but a necessity.  I can't remember what brand, but each one had 26 grams of protein, that cost about $20 for a box of 12)

--PEANUTS, check the nutrtion facts, they've got alot of good fats and protein.  I had a late lunch, so I would snack on these until lunch.  You can buy these in bulk for next to nothing.

--Fish oil, Zesty swears by the stuff, and I did gain a few lb's after Zesty told me to take them, but I got what the call the "fish burps" (which makes your burp a fish smell) after a few weeks and I decided it wasn't worth it.

--Last but not least, anything thing Zesty told me in a PM, which you've probably heard but never done.  EAT a FULL breakfast.  I had a bacon egg and cheese sandwhich every morning.


And I just went and weighed myself, and I'm 185 now.  I would like to be 200 before baseball season, which is in mid/late Feb.

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I have taken creatine and protien, I was 160 something when I started, now I'm 171. I lost a couple of inches on my waist as well, worth it in my opinion.

and no "shrinkage"

I can't say I have had any bloating problems.

Also, drink lots of water like everybody said already.

how long have you been working with creatine?  and what was your powerclean when you started?

usafpilot07 wrote: how long have you been working with creatine?  and what was your powerclean when you started?

My powerclean a year and a half ago was 145.  I got it up to 175, with no supplements. 

Then my coach said he wanted every defensive player powercleaning over 200, so I worked my ass of on just powercleans and it went up.