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Seems to me you're both ignoring the somewhat inconvenient fact of the video at the start of the thread thaty proves it works.

Full auto is no more dangerous than a 15 year old who knows how to walk a trigger. It's all about responsible use. I've seen complete idiots with semi autos, as well. As long as people just use short bursts, there's nothing wrong with automatic fire- it's no different from a semi shooting a rope of paint at insane ROF.

The 5 minute dremel mod I was referring to was the select fire, not the full auto portion of it- getting the ROF down would require new springs and a heavier bolt. Modding it so you could put a fire select switch in would only take a small hole through the receiver and a couple small metal parts that would be easy to make or improvise.

It's easy enough to be dangerous with paintball anyway.Considering the availability of electric full auto mods, a mechanical one wouldn't be any worse- and in fact would be more expensive, requiring a Qloader rather than just an egrip, which is available stock or in expensively for a lot of markers. When you get down to it, people are gonna be stupid regardless of what you put in their hands. Trying to limit what's available to reasonable players because of a handful of idiots is unreasonable.

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i cant see the video..I have to agree on bri on this one, if some idot hits me in the "cajones" 10 times when hes shooting full auto illegally i'll beat his @ss, some punk shooting 23 bps shoots me in the crotch on purpose 10 times i'd be just as pissed
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at least walking the trigger takes some skill.  with full-auto, you just hold the trigger down.  it's like sitting down when you pee....  at least with a semi, you're doing something.

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Originally posted by c411m3b0b c411m3b0b wrote:

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Blender mod.
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Originally posted by Styro Folme Styro Folme wrote:

at least walking the trigger takes some skill.  with full-auto, you just hold the trigger down.  it's like sitting down when you pee....  at least with a semi, you're doing something.

Developing that one fast twitch ability isn't nearly as impressive as having a proper sense of tactics, and being able to hit a target easily with one or two aimed shots. Full auto gives the high rate of fire ability to thsoe who don't generally need to worry about it. I don't advocate spray 'n' pray at all. There are just limited times where a high rate of fire is desireable even to someone who's generally an accurate shot and doesn't otherwise invest in equipment that allows a high rate of fire. Lots of MilSimmers own Q-loaders anyway, so in some cases it's the best solution for them in terms of combining rate of fire and select fire abilities with the desireability of a purely mechanical setup.

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Hey!, I did that and it does like 18-27 bps! im not sure how much but is extremly fast...  i did it a way different way.
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The uncapped rate of fire while actually feeding balls seems a bit lower than what we al expected- I'd estimate it as not realy being any higher than 30bps, and maybe less. The Qloader fed it reliably, it would seem.

If anyone's got plausible ideas for slowing down the uncapped rate of fire, feel free to post 'em.
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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Originally posted by Styro Folme Styro Folme wrote:

at least walking the trigger takes some skill.  with full-auto, you just hold the trigger down.  it's like sitting down when you pee....  at least with a semi, you're doing something.

Developing that one fast twitch ability isn't nearly as impressive as having a proper sense of tactics, and being able to hit a target easily with one or two aimed shots. Full auto gives the high rate of fire ability to thsoe who don't generally need to worry about it. I don't advocate spray 'n' pray at all. There are just limited times where a high rate of fire is desireable even to someone who's generally an accurate shot and doesn't otherwise invest in equipment that allows a high rate of fire. Lots of MilSimmers own Q-loaders anyway, so in some cases it's the best solution for them in terms of combining rate of fire and select fire abilities with the desireability of a purely mechanical setup.

if you want a mechanical setup, keep it mech.  with a full-auto mech, your just asking for trouble. 
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Why should that stop anyone? Technical problems are there to be overcome. 
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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

If anyone's got plausible ideas for slowing down the uncapped rate of fire, feel free to post 'em.


Look up the patent for the Factory F/A.
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OOOOR u could just aim the shot... and only have to fire like 2 or 3 times...



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Originally posted by sneaky_sniper sneaky_sniper wrote:

OOOOR u could just aim the shot... and only have to fire like 2 or 3 times...

thats been said.... as for this whole idea, i dont think its practical for any kind of feild use but would still be fun to show someone what 25-30 bps looks like...and as for slowing the bps down you would need a heavier bolt and a weaker spring(has been said already)
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Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

If anyone's got plausible ideas for slowing down the uncapped rate of fire, feel free to post 'em.


Look up the patent for the Factory F/A.

i went to the u.s. patent office website and they said it wasn't found. what exactly is a Factory F/A???

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It was one of the very first Tippmann markers as I recall... Fired full auto from 15 round clips.

Snkeay, if you'd read the thread to this point you'd see that I advocated careful aimed shots, but that I have experience that validates the usefulness of full auto in select situations.
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Nope, you're thinking of the smg. The F/A had a feed system similair to the A-5, except you had to wind it up.

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My bad. Thanks for the info.
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Thats way to much work to mod it...I can do the same thing with a toothpick and a minute of my time; some of you may remeber this...

 

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LOL, that's how this thread started, Klaus. The 'toothpick' mod. Someone pulled it off witha  Q-laoder. I just want to slow down the rate of fire somehow.
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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

It was one of the very first Tippmann markers as I recall... Fired full auto from 15 round clips.

Snkeay, if you'd read the thread to this point you'd see that I advocated careful aimed shots, but that I have experience that validates the usefulness of full auto in select situations.
having stock-play experiance, there is absolutly no need for full-auto other than just a novelty (or a cheater, but if that's the case, don't even play). 
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