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    Posted: 14 September 2005 at 4:26pm
SAN FRANCISCO - Reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools was ruled unconstitutional Wednesday by a federal judge who granted legal standing to two families represented by an atheist who lost his previous battle before the U.S. Supreme Court. U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton ruled that the pledge's reference to one nation "under God" violates school children's right to be "free from a coercive requirement to affirm God."

this is what, the 3rd time? discuss.

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Discuss what?
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discuss your opinion on the subject. that's usually what one discusses, yes?
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Didnt the US supreme court already give a ruling on this?
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Can a federal judge override a Supreme Court Judge's decision?
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Thats rediculous. America was founded by Christians... and the pledge honours our country, people who fought and died for it, and its founders.
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Originally posted by triggerhappy1 triggerhappy1 wrote:

Thats rediculous. America was founded by Christians... and the pledge honours our country, people who fought and died for it, and its founders.

"Under God" was not added untill the 1950's.


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The Supreme Court did not rule on it - they dismissed the prior case for lack of standing.

This issue won't go away until the Court does rule on the subject.

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redunkulous.  If i lived there, id say under God anyways just to piss off anybody who thinks i should do otherwise.
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munky you're an athiest how do YOU feel?

I personally say under God with pride, but I could care less if people say under ala, under satan, or under ricky martin. Its a free country . . . or thats what we put in the adds.
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Originally posted by triggerhappy1 triggerhappy1 wrote:

Thats rediculous. America was founded by Christians... and the pledge honours our country, people who fought and died for it, and its founders.
  RIGHT ON!!! When you say the pledge you pledge yourself to America! And if you don't like America then get out of the country. I say the pledge everyday. I don't think loving America is unconstitutional.

Why can one person, change what students say in the morning. This needs to be a federal case! Let the country decide.



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It's been changed jackass.
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Originally posted by djrock djrock wrote:

Originally posted by triggerhappy1 triggerhappy1 wrote:

Thats rediculous. America was founded by Christians... and the pledge honours our country, people who fought and died for it, and its founders.
  RIGHT ON!!! When you say the pledge you pledge yourself to America! And if you don't like America then get out of the country. I say the pledge everyday. I don't think loving America is unconstitutional.

Why can one person, change what students say in the morning. This needs to be a federal case! Let the country decide.

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The Pledge of Allegiance was written for the popular children's magazine Youth's Companion by socialist author and Baptist minister Francis Bellamy on 11 October 1892. The owners of Youth's Companion were selling flags to schools, and approached Bellamy to write the Pledge for their advertising campaign. It was marketed as a way to celebrate the 400th anniversary of Columbus arriving in the Americas and was first published on the following day, 12 October.
 
 
 
 
 
 
What what what? Your precious pledge was nothing more than an advertising jingle used for profit.
 

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either way i say it with pride whale.  So you know, come hell or high water i'll have something to be proud of.

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Yup, welcome to America.
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Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

either way i say it with pride whale.  So you know, come hell or high water i'll have something to be proud of.

On days you do not have to go to school do you stand facing a flag and recite the pledge?


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Originally posted by djrock djrock wrote:

Why can one person, change what students say in the morning. This needs to be a federal case!

It IS a Federal case...  That's the point.

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Its a part of the pledge that is treasured by many regaurdless of its origins. Its a part of their herritage, its what we grew up with. There isnt any reason it should be taken out.
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Agent whale, are you like a Canadian? It has come a long way from that advertising crap.

It's been changed jackass.
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Originally posted by djrock djrock wrote:

Agent whale, are you like a Canadian? It has come a long way from that advertising crap.

Im a Floridian.

It has come along way, now its mindless drivel that most of the kids in school 1) dont say and 2) shouldnt care about.

It serves no point.


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