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    Posted: 07 September 2005 at 4:46pm
alright, everywhere I look it saiys that you need an lp kit to run nitro/comp air, but my friend told me that some people told hime that it could be used without it, is this true? I dont really believe it but, it might work
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You don't need the LPK to run air it just makes it more efficient and better.
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oh wow, really? how bad will it run though?
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As long as you have a HP tank it will run awesome.
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ok thanks, I didnt want to run out and spend $100 if I didnt need to, all I have to buy is the tank, thanks again for clearifying this for me
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HPA is one of the best upgrades out there.  The LPK is just a minor tweak compared.

Make sure to get a tank that has "high" output - you need 800 psi or so from thetank to run your Tippmann.  Some tanks put out 450 psi or so - those are not for you.

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where could I find an 800 psi hpa tank? everywhere I go, the have in the thousand (nitro of course) do I need a reg for this or is there an 800 psi preset hpa tank?

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The thousands of psis are the INTERNAL pressure - 3000psi, 4500psi, etc.  (You want 4500 psi, but anything will work)

That is how much air the tank holds.

The OUTPUT pressure will be either "high", "low", or "variable/adjustable".  This is the pressure of the air that goes to the gun.  This is what you want to be "high" or 800ish.

Most tanks will work.  Unless it specifically says "low output pressure" or "400 psi" or something like that, you should be fine.

 

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ok, thanks for clearifying that for me, I was a bit confused
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does anyone know the safe psi limit for macro line?(  im too lazy to look)
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i have heard the exact opposite, even from the guys who installed my LPK. it uses more air, but is more consistent not efficient. less pressure, more volume, more consistency.

my marker fires 289fps every shot, but i went through about 4 fills on a 3000psi 68cuin tanks on a case of paint + 200rds-ish. that was with a non-functioning RT (you need replacement parts to get it to work with LPK that i didnt have). not sure if a non-functioning RT wastes gas. from looking at its setup it would appear that it could very easily waste it.

so in any case while a-5's are gas hogs, mine appears to be worse now that i have the LPK.

just a heads up.
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The LPK will not improve your efficiency - I found no noticable change in either direction.

What the LPK DOES do is improve chrono consistency (noticably), and reduce recoil (VERY noticably).  Sound signature is also reduced.

The main effect is the reduced recoil, which makes aiming at high ROF much much easier.

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