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    Posted: 31 August 2005 at 5:01pm

can i get anti syphon and remote or will it just take more liquid co2 in my gun

 

 

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Just use the remote it won't let any co2 into the gun and yes an anti-siphon+remote would make more liquid co2 get into your gun.
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the whole anti siphon works when your tank is in the horizontal position.  Get the remote, it keeps the liquid out of your tank.  And also it usually makes your gun quieter.
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Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

Just use the remote it won't let any co2 into the gun and yes an anti-siphon+remote would make more liquid co2 get into your gun.

No. The remote will not keep all of the co2 out of your gun. It will HELP to keep it out.

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No, you can't use both
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I'd just go with the remote.
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Woodsball - Remote
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As others have already said, Anti-siphon only works when your tank is horizontal. When it's vertical (as in using a remote), it won't work.
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Originally posted by Sgt.Tippy<^> Sgt.Tippy<^> wrote:

Can I get anti-siphon and remote or will it just take more liquid CO2 in my gun

The anti-siphon is intended to keep liquid out of marker by drawing pressure from the gas space in the bottle when the bottle is screwed into the ASA and lying on its side. When you are using the remote set up, the intent is to give any liquid that might get into the line a chance to vaporize before it reaches the marker. Since the bottle will be on your back there is little likelihood that it will be in a position where there is a bubble area from which it can draw gas consistently. The siphon would be of little value.

That said, it is possible to mount a dip tube, a tube that extends all the way to just short of the bottom of the bottle, and mount the bottle upside down on your back. This stands a good chance of drawing nothing but gas from the upside down bottle. And, with the remote, even if liquid gets in, it has time to vaporise before it reaches the marker.

The siphon would be hit or miss as to whether it is oriented to suck gas most of the time. The extended dip tube in an upside down bottle would more frequently just draw gas.

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Interesting concept if you could find a way to mount your tank horizontally. 

In theory or if you're standing still anti-syphon seems great but what about when you're moving around, diving etc. during play and sloshing the c02 around.  Seems like it would suck the liquid right up.  Never used one though.



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If youre that worried, get an expansion chamber along with your remote. Although quite a bit more, this will work much better for you than an anti-siphon will. With a remote doing a pretty good feeding the gun CO2 gas, a X-chamber will make it so your gun shoots nothing but gas.
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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

Interesting concept if you could find a way to mount your tank horizontally.


In theory or if you're standing still anti-syphon seems great but what about when you're moving around, diving etc. during play and sloshing the c02 around. Seems like it would suck the liquid right up. Never used one though.



Its only sucking gas/liquid when your shooting. When you're just running the pressure in the tank is already equalized with the pressure in the gas line, so the liquid doesn't go in there unless it sloshes while you are shooting.
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A full CO2 tank only contains approx 33% liquid CO2. Which leaves approx
66% of the tank filled with vapor.

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Originally posted by Sargent Duck Sargent Duck wrote:

Woodsball - Remote
Speedball - Anti-Siphon

As others have already said, Anti-siphon only works when your tank is horizontal. When it's vertical (as in using a remote), it won't work.
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Originally posted by FyreFly FyreFly wrote:

A full CO2 tank only contains approx 33% liquid CO2. Which leaves approx 66% of the tank filled with vapor.

Fyrefly,

I don't know where you get that information. I have my own filling station and a lot of experience as a welder and a welding tech with filling pressure bottles. If you do a calculation of density of liquid CO2 and the internal volume of a 20 oz paintball cylinder, 20 ounces of liquid CO2 fills about 85% of that volume.

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It was posted on the forum awhile ago...   I'll see if I can't find the thread.

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