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hmmmmmmmmmm, i would go to the pro shop, just incase its something worse

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$800 into a Tippmann=

Just my opinion. I would rather have a new gun for that much.

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If you did trigger mods you probley screwed up.
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No I didn't screw up my trigger. Wtf could I have done to it anyway?

Its gotten MUCH better since I dry fired it a bunch of times. I think there were some rough edges on the powertube where the venturi thing goes into it and they have been smoothed off now.
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Originally posted by rossy11223 rossy11223 wrote:

$800 into a Tippmann=

Just my opinion. I would rather have a new gun for that much.

Let's see what I have into mine:

Used 98C (bought off Ebay)..............$60

E-Bolt..........................................$229

LP valve and Volumizer(Ebay)............$40

Wicked Bolt....................................$29

Palmer Stabilizer..............................$59  

HPA (Ebay--88/4500)......................$125

Halo B (Ebay, new)..........................$104

Now I would have bought the HPA  and maybe the Halo even if I'd stayed stock, but I'll still include it at $646.

At $646 I have a marker that shoots with the best electrics on the speedball field and I never fail to get the question "Wow, what is that?" or "Man, I have never seen a Tippmann shot that fast!" In my hands I can lay paint at 11 to 13 bps.

I know the 98C inside and out. I just don't have anything happen to it that I cannot fix in a few minutes. (last session three Angles went down and ended the players play date) I'll see if I can get a picture of the final configuration posted in a few days.

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I'm like that with the 98c too. I can usually fix ANYTHING that happens to them. This was the first time in a LONG time that I haven't been able to fix it on my own.
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Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

I'm like that with the 98c too. I can usually fix ANYTHING that happens to them. This was the first time in a LONG time that I haven't been able to fix it on my own.

you can fix anything on it, yet you decide to shoot it without the valve bolts? oh well suit yourself.

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If you did any trigger mods (pen springs and whatnot) you might want to check them...  Sounds like the sear isn't engaging the bolt after each shot.  On occasion.
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Originally posted by schnappi schnappi wrote:

If you did any trigger mods (pen springs and whatnot) you might want to check them...  Sounds like the sear isn't engaging the bolt after each shot.  On occasion.

This doesn't apply to PS's 98C yet but once the E-Bolt is installed the trigger can operate with no return spring at all. The electric switch arm provides the needed return pressure. BUT, with no spring the trigger is TOO sensitive. You can fire the marker by just shaking it hard.

In mine I have used the ball point spring method to lighten the pull. Let me say that using the pen spring has no value until you switch to an electric trigger. In the mechanical marker the lightness of the pen spring is completely overwhelmed by the spring that keeps the sear engaged. With the electric trigger the lighter the pen spring the easier it is to walk the double trigger. You are not really pulling the trigger, it is more like drumming your fingers on a desk top. And get used to going through three pods per speedball game until you get past the power trip that 13 bps in YOUR hands gives to you.

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Originally posted by tigman250 tigman250 wrote:

Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

I'm like that with the 98c too. I can usually fix ANYTHING that happens to them. This was the first time in a LONG time that I haven't been able to fix it on my own.


you can fix anything on it, yet you decide to shoot it without the valve bolts? oh well suit yourself.



Yes. I tried it without them and it worked fine for like 6 months. My power tube is what was messing it up. I think its gotten pretty well fixed over time by the front bolt rubbing on it.

I know you need the valve screws on most guns, but there is something about mine that allows it to work without them. I think later I will fill in the holes for them with JB weld or something so I don't have to worry about them falling out/coming loose.
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Originally posted by periscope periscope wrote:


Yes. I tried it without them and it worked fine for like 6 months. My power tube is what was messing it up. I think its gotten pretty well fixed over time by the front bolt rubbing on it.

I know you need the valve screws on most guns, but there is something about mine that allows it to work without them. I think later I will fill in the holes for them with JB weld or something so I don't have to worry about them falling out/coming loose.

OK, let's talk about this a bit. There is a shoulder in the marker body that stops the valve and power tube from moving forward each time the hammer strikes. But if the screws are not installed holding the valve body to the receiver the power tube on which the front bolt slides does not stay centered in the action...which may cause the bolt to bind and not cycle properly. Also the hammering effect of the valve compressing the plastic power tube against the shoulder may damage and distort the alignment of the tube through the bolt. Also that missing screw allows a lot of gas to escape through the screw holes because the valve is not held tightly against the inside of the power tube.  I actually use sealing compounds between the valve and the inside of the ower tube to really prevent leakage. I do the same around the hose fitting  where it screws into the valve. You need to replace that stripped screw.

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Your valve bolts were the problem. It worked fine with a STOCK powertube that was already worn down from flopping around. SO, you had to wear off your new powertube to get it to work.

Actual solution- Valve bolts.

Your solution- Smash powertube until it worked.

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^^Ok...

1. Why would it flop around? (I have a VA)
2. What would get worn down by it "flopping around"?
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just put the screws in, if they were not needed tippmann wouldn't have put them there.
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Why I always say, "Theres nothing better than your stock internals."
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Ok it works dry firing with no valve screws. I still need to test it with paint.
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GET VALVE BOLTS IN THERE. It may work fine at first, but it WILL render your gun useless for play. Trust me, this happened to me. Your velocity will go 280fps-190fps-60fps-0fps-recock it-repeat pattern in a pattern like that. It sux a lot.

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Omg did TH1 just say "sux"?

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No, I actualy didnt. It just looks like I did.

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