What do you want out of life?

Making big bucks doesn't make you a bigger or better person, it means you might be a bit more greedy than the average man. I've learned to cope without money, because it doesn't make me happy. If I have kids early or late, I will love them the same, and they will become my life.

Dune wrote: Making money while not being a good person doesn't prove much to me. You can be as rich as you want, but if you aren't happy, with the one you love, then it's a pitiful life. I will find my mate first before anything else, have a family that I can support, then worry about buying stuff.

Since when dos not worrying about a family make you a bad person?

I guess you will just have to speak for yourself, because I feel I can live a very fulfilling life without getting married or having a significant other.

I think that's the problem, and why most marriages end in divorce! because instead of living a full life, being successful by yourself, gaining confidence and self-worth, and THEN looking for a mate, people have messed up priorities! They want to get married and have kids before they have accomplished anything in life.

So, after a few years, your wife realizes you really aren't confident, because you use her as a crutch. You haven't accomplished anything in life without her a your side...compared to my scenario, where I will have been the person solely responsible for my wealth.

Dune wrote: Making big bucks doesn't make you a bigger or better person, it means you might be a bit more greedy than the average man. I've learned to cope without money, because it doesn't make me happy. If I have kids early or late, I will love them the same, and they will become my life.

seriously, you are putting words in my mouth...you are equating being successful with being greedy!

I only want what I have earcned, and I feel I have enough to offer the world that I should be compensated hansomely.

Nothing to do with being a bad person or greedy, just having proper priorities!

It's your life, I just do not equate personal wealth with success or having better priorities. I will give back what I have learned, and dedicate myself to making other's happy, teaching them, and being a link in their lives.

Zesty wrote: Dune wrote: Getting married and having a family is accomplishing something. Creating a life, raising it to become a good person, and sustaining a long lasting relationship is by far more difficult than anything else. That's an accomplishment. Why can't you do this after you have been successful yourself? Why can't ypu make a million dolars, and bring that to the table even before you start a family? I don't get your logic.

Becuase I don't need a million dollars to make me think I have made it better than the rest of the world. Becomming rich does not matter to me because I don't compare myself to others on a basis of wealth. If this thread is about doing what makes you happy, then raising a family is exactly what I will do. Money is just paper, it doesn't make the man.

Dune wrote: It's your life, I just do not equate personal wealth with success or having better priorities. I will give back what I have learned, and dedicate myself to making other's happy, teaching them, and being a link in their lives.

I think what you're missing is this:

My way of life doesn't mean I won't ever have a family! It just means I will satisfy my urge to be succesful before that!

Honestly, too many people are afraid to be honest that they aren't happy with their lives!

I'm not, I have lived a fulfilling life, but I'm still not content or happy. If I had a family beofre accomplishing my business goals, I would feel like less of a person, and would regret it.

Hvaing kids is an accomplishment, but not one to be all that proud of IMHO.

I will be more proud knowing I waited until the best possible time, and gave my kids the best chance at success possible.

Put it this way:

Take your situation, and add 11 million dollars to your bank account.

Are you telling me money will make you a worse man?

How would you feel knowing that YOU PERSONALLY made millions of dollars, with no help at all?

I would feel happy because I could buy stuff. But taking that money away doesn't make me a worse person. I think that too many people equate rich with happy, which is not always the case. I think it's a psuedo-happiness because it buys you what you want. But it can never equal the feeling of a good mate.

Cedric wrote: Be in a band as sucessful as At the Drive-In.

Uhh.. who?

Linus wrote: Cedric wrote: Be in a band as sucessful as At the Drive-In. Uhh.. who?

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