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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 3:51am
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This is the only picture of NN's gun that I have. This was his first version. But this picture does it no justice.

Oh, and model98.net went down for some reason, no one know swhy.

Now THAT is a marker I might be interested in....any more info on that?

Plentiful...what moron would smash his marker against a tree?? ESPECIALLY on purpose? Or run over it with a car?? what dillhole would even try? but to answer your question, I have taken spills and hit the ground during slides...and have never had a problem with my ANY of my spyders...they are plenty durable as u say the tipps are...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 3:53am
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Do they work? yes...they can lob paint down field and if you're lucky, hit someone before they move out of the way of the 5 balls per second you cannon-balled at them. Ropes are harder to get away from. And since I'm on the subject of ROF...all of you scenario players...you'd think you'd embrace the sheer speed of a Kingman electroframe over the Tip...simply to simulate the machine-gun nests...


Way to open a whole new can of sardines on the ROF topic. Accuracy by Volume only means you have skill at buying a fast gun, and having it able to throw X amount of bps down field. You talk about not being able to hit a moving target unless you have a nice rope of paint. First off, I can put down a line of paint in my mech tippy, over your capped POS spyder any day. Secondly, If you need to put down a rop to hit one person, thats sad and shows no skill. I could go all sniper and say one shot, one kill, but you will retaliate "ZOMG DER R NOE SN1PRZ IN TEH P8NTBALLZ0RZ!1!111ONE!11!!1 SO Ill say you have no skill cause you cant take down a moving target within 1-2 shots.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 3:58am
Originally posted by druidsdecendant druidsdecendant wrote:

Originally posted by Pate Pate wrote:

This is the only picture of NN's gun that I have. This was his first version. But this picture does it no justice.

Oh, and model98.net went down for some reason, no one know swhy.

Now THAT is a marker I might be interested in....any more info on that?

Plentiful...what moron would smash his marker against a tree?? ESPECIALLY on purpose? Or run over it with a car?? what dillhole would even try? but to answer your question, I have taken spills and hit the ground during slides...and have never had a problem with my ANY of my spyders...they are plenty durable as u say the tipps are...



I dont know, there are some really dumb people in the world, and people have ran guns over in cars before.

Physically they even look more durable, compare the thickness of the frames of a Spyder and Carbine.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 3:59am
Originally posted by druidsdecendant druidsdecendant wrote:

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There are no snipers in Paintball..... aww you just ruined my party.

what about this Spyder sniper rifle then?

 

That's one person's attempt at being different...and if Im not mistaken, I believe it was spec ops or ariakon that designed it first...this would just be a copy



Well since nobody has manufactured an all-out rifle in the last 10 years or so, and it definatly wasn't spec-ops or Ariakon, then you would definatly be mistaken.

So quit making up your facts,
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:05am
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same old boring marker.........

haha you make me laugh. Every Spyder is the exact same gun. They just come with different milling and different accessories. They throw a drop on the gun and call it a new gun. Or slap a gas-through grip on it. at least they look different and are accessorized at all...

Tippmanns have all been innovations. Tippmann made the first full-auto and semi-auto. Point Also the firtst gun to run off of a Constant Air source.k Next came the beginning of the carbine line. They used semi-auto with a hopper. Then came the rest of the series, each gun was an improvement over the previous. The F/A allowed the use of mechanical full-auto with the use of a regular hopper thanks to the star feed system.
Then later on came the 98 and 98c. The 2 most upgradeable guns ever made. The a-5 also came with new stuff, like the cyclone feed, and moveable front grip.but in each class, they still look and operate the same. No true assortment of valves...no true assortmant of bolts. Nothing up front except a different grip handle...big whoop. And it wasn't until this past years' 98C could be upped by the user with "drop-in parts" and they were all black or silver. Camo didn't come out until D i CK's sporting goods wanted it...

letsee now. The first Spyder I can think of was the TL+ which just came with a beavertail and expansion chamber. My compact came with nothing. I had to go buy a bottomling kit just to run it effectively. well, my first spyder was a sonix...the original. then an xtra. then an imagine and last was my esprit. sonix...plain jane with only a steel line and gas thru. xtra ..an attempt at a lp marker...both of which were mech frames...the imagine, again the LP attempt but now with an E-frame. The Esprit a step back cuz no LPC...but better frame, bolt and valve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:05am
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actually yes I am 35.



haha, yeah right. Thats what all the newbs resort to when we question their maturity. Thats ok, I'm not the middleaged man arguing on the internet at 4am.

So what happened... did your kiddie porn site get shut down for the night?

Or are you finally gonna admit that your some prepubescent fanboy/troll?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:08am
Originally posted by druidsdecendant druidsdecendant wrote:

Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

same old boring marker.........

haha you make me laugh. Every Spyder is the exact same gun. They just come with different milling and different accessories. They throw a drop on the gun and call it a new gun. Or slap a gas-through grip on it. at least they look different and are accessorized at all...

Yea, pointless accesories. WOW A RAISED SIGHT RAIL! ALL THE USE I'LL GET OUT OF IT! ESPECIALLY WITH CENTER FEED!

pfft...atleast they look different, the A-5, 98 and pro/carb look nothing alike. Kingman is just remanufacturing the same bravo sierra (thanks Hway) over and over again.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:08am
grr talk about flaming.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:09am
Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

Originally posted by druidsdecendant druidsdecendant wrote:

Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

There are no snipers in Paintball..... aww you just ruined my party.

what about this Spyder sniper rifle then?

 

That's one person's attempt at being different...and if Im not mistaken, I believe it was spec ops or ariakon that designed it first...this would just be a copy



Well since nobody has manufactured an all-out rifle in the last 10 years or so, and it definatly wasn't spec-ops or Ariakon, then you would definatly be mistaken.

So quit making up your facts,

 

http://www.specopspaintball.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRO D&ProdID=587 

Now shut up

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:09am
Originally posted by bomberpilot07 bomberpilot07 wrote:

grr talk about flaming.....


Uhmm...i see no flaming...just debating....

Longbow doesnt seem like an all out rifle, more like a Spyder with a stock and super lame feed system.

And yes, i realize that it is a TAC-ONE


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:11am
well i guess are opinions are different. in the last few months ive been going thru alot so i see things different from alot of people.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:15am
Originally posted by druidsdecendant druidsdecendant wrote:

Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

same old boring marker.........

haha you make me laugh. Every Spyder is the exact same gun. They just come with different milling and different accessories. They throw a drop on the gun and call it a new gun. Or slap a gas-through grip on it. at least they look different and are accessorized at all... actually there is a big enough difference in all Tippmann's that most could name them at just a glance.

Tippmanns have all been innovations. Tippmann made the first full-auto and semi-auto. Point Also the firtst gun to run off of a Constant Air source.k Next came the beginning of the carbine line. They used semi-auto with a hopper. Then came the rest of the series, each gun was an improvement over the previous. The F/A allowed the use of mechanical full-auto with the use of a regular hopper thanks to the star feed system.
Then later on came the 98 and 98c. The 2 most upgradeable guns ever made. The a-5 also came with new stuff, like the cyclone feed, and moveable front grip.but in each class, they still look and operate the same. All Spyders operate the same.... No true assortment of valves...no true assortmant of bolts.Tippmann stock bolts and valves are the best out there, they do not need upgrading. Plus, the 98's and A-5 use the CVX valve. Carbines used another type of valve and the SMG's used a third type. Nothing up front except a different grip handle...big whoop. And it wasn't until this past years' 98C could be upped by the user with "drop-in parts" Now your making stuff up. 98c's came out more than a year ago. Drop-in kits have been available for them for a long time. and once again, any upgrade you can put on a spyder, you can put on a Tippmann (they don;t need most of them though.). Plus kits were available to the older Tippmann's as well. and they were all black or silver. Camo didn't come out until D i CK's sporting goods wanted it... colors are customized to the user. Another upgrade option. Paint, anno, powdercoating. all options.


letsee now. The first Spyder I can think of was the TL+ which just came with a beavertail and expansion chamber. My compact came with nothing. I had to go buy a bottomling kit just to run it effectively. well, my first spyder was a sonix...the original. then an xtra. then an imagine and last was my esprit. sonix...plain jane with only a steel line and gas thru. xtra ..an attempt at a lp marker...both of which were mech frames...the imagine, again the LP attempt but now with an E-frame. The Esprit a step back cuz no LPC...but better frame, bolt and valve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:16am
Originally posted by druidsdecendant druidsdecendant wrote:

Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

Originally posted by druidsdecendant druidsdecendant wrote:

Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

There are no snipers in Paintball..... aww you just ruined my party.

what about this Spyder sniper rifle then?

 

That's one person's attempt at being different...and if Im not mistaken, I believe it was spec ops or ariakon that designed it first...this would just be a copy



Well since nobody has manufactured an all-out rifle in the last 10 years or so, and it definatly wasn't spec-ops or Ariakon, then you would definatly be mistaken.

So quit making up your facts,

 

http://www.specopspaintball.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRO D&ProdID=587 

Now shut up



Ypu thats just a mag with a long barrel, feedtube, and stock.

I see nothing that resembles an all-out rifle.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:16am
Originally posted by PlentifulBalls PlentifulBalls wrote:

Originally posted by druidsdecendant druidsdecendant wrote:

Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

same old boring marker.........
haha you make me laugh. Every Spyder is the exact same gun. They just come with different milling and different accessories. They throw a drop on the gun and call it a new gun. Or slap a gas-through grip on it. at least they look different and are accessorized at all...

Yea, pointless accesories. WOW A RAISED SIGHT RAIL! ALL THE USE I'LL GET OUT OF IT! ESPECIALLY WITH CENTER FEED!
Hmm...xchambers and regulators as pointless...valve upgrades as well as frames...and body milling and anno that just looks better than tar
pfft...atleast they look different, the A-5, 98 and pro/carb look nothing alike. Kingman is just remanufacturing the same bravo sierra (thanks Hway) over and over again.
as I said...in their own classes...they all look the same. the PC only has a different foregrip...kinda sheesey one at that. Yeah, the A5 is different in operation and I'll admit...a better idea than the rest of the crap for the 98's. Since the stacked-tube blowback works so much better than any tippman...why change the overall operation design? especially when it works. Mill it, anno it...I dare you to try and anno a tippman...the (poor) quality of the white metal/crap aluminum they use couldn't hold the anno...at least, not without some superglue.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:22am
annoed Tippmann's work fine. I thought you liked Natural Newbie's 98.....

that was powder coated. and I have seen numerous annoed Tippmann's in the marker gallery.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:23am

Originally posted by PlentifulBalls PlentifulBalls wrote:

Originally posted by bomberpilot07 bomberpilot07 wrote:

grr talk about flaming.....


Uhmm...i see no flaming...just debating....

Longbow doesnt seem like an all out rifle, more like a Spyder with a stock and super lame feed system.

And yes, i realize that it is a TAC-ONE

well, it 'seems' like an all-out rifle to me...although, I must admit I never saw one except in that link. The point was...motor-mouth was implying that there weren't production 'rifle' markers and there are...and whomever created the first one. and as far as a 'Lame' feed system...I'd take someone on using that marker...timmy, angel or whatever...if just for the experience of having used it because it's something different.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:26am
careful guys, hes teh superl337 newbzorz. He must be using the matrix f hes never been hit by a Tippmann.....

OMGZORZ teh Matriks exists........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:27am
How does it "seem" like one? it isnt at all, its a tac-one with stupid feed system. it ahs a 21-ball magazine. Have fun reloading every 5 seconds, especially with the way i bet you shoot.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:29am
Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

Originally posted by druidsdecendant druidsdecendant wrote:

actually yes I am 35.



haha, yeah right. Thats what all the newbs resort to when we question their maturity. Thats ok, I'm not the middleaged man arguing on the internet at 4am.
More than likely, you are the juvenile delinquent that end up in facilities such as mine...located atXXXXXremovedXXXXXXX...
So what happened... did your kiddie porn site get shut down for the night?
alright junior...that's enough
Or are you finally gonna admit that your some prepubescent fanboy/troll? :deep sigh:.... Im trying to figure out why people like a tippman over a spyder. I've scanned over this site and another like it and it simply eludes me...how simply taking an obviously inferior marker, slapping some aesthetic accessories on it, makes it better?


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well the way his ubersized spyders shoot, he must have to reload every second. because his spyder can shoot 1,000,000,000,000,000 balls a second...


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