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Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

You know, Jesus condemns homosexuality maybe twice in all four gospels. He condemns the rich probably about 30 times. I vote to outlaw wealth. Jesus would want it that way.

  He never said being homosexual was against the law, he just said that homosexuals getting married was.  You would have been more accurate to say that since Jesus condemns the rich, the rich should not be allowed to wed.

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Of course you think its weird, because it's unusual to you. There's nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is the outlawing of the practice and becoming so judgemental that we as a country "must" get so deep into peoples' private lives and outlaw normal practices for them.
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I have yet to hear a good reason to ban Homosexual Marriage other than

  • Ewww its Icky!
  • They cant have kids
  • Bible says so

None of them can or should be bases for a law.

 


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It doesn't matter what your god says about marriage. We all live here, we all are different, and the rights of the law should extend to anyone here.
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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Of course you think its weird, because it's unusual to you. There's nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is the outlawing of the practice and becoming so judgemental that we as a country "must" get so deep into peoples' private lives and outlaw normal practices for them.


The very same could be said about your desire to outlaw religion . . .
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But outlawing religion is stupid, and I understand that even as an atheist. The same should be granted to homosexual marriage.

It is absolutely amazing that people that aren't homosexual actually take the time out of their day to hate on those who seek only to be married to the one they love, regardless of gender.



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Originally posted by hashi2008 hashi2008 wrote:

  Marriage is "the mutual relation of husband and wife", or "the institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of founding and maintaining a family".  I see nothing in there about 2 guys, and I see nothing about two women either. 

 The fact is that marriage has nothing to do with homosexuals.  What is the best solution?  In my opinion it is to make a new kind of bond.  Call it a civil union or something, I don't care, but it isn't marriage.  I think that the only reason that some homosexuals are against the option that I sugest is because they just want to prove a point or are just stubborn.

 I am personaly against homosexuals, but I don't care what they do as long as it isn't against the law and as long as it doesn't affect me.


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How would it effect you? That's ignorant to believe that this could ever effect someone that isn't involved. It's quite selfish to be against it actually.
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I dont agree with it. But, legaly, there isnt any reason two men shouldnt be alowed to get married.
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Thanks Dbib. Even if you don't agree with it yourself, which no one is asking, you can still accept that it should be allowed.
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Originally posted by hashi2008 hashi2008 wrote:

Marriage is "the mutual relation of
husband and wife", or "the institution whereby men and women are joined
in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of
founding and maintaining a family
". I see nothing in there about
2 guys, and I see nothing about two women either.


The fact is that marriage has nothing to do with
homosexuals. What is the best solution? In my opinion it is
to make a new kind of bond. Call it a civil union or something, I
don't care, but it isn't marriage. I think that the only reason
that some homosexuals are against the option that I sugest is because
they just want to prove a point or are just stubborn.


I am personaly against homosexuals, but I don't care what they
do as long as it isn't against the law and as long as it doesn't affect
me.



Two men can do this. Two women can do this. And a man and a woman can do this.



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It is pretty icky.....

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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

How would it effect you? That's ignorant to believe that this could ever effect someone that isn't involved. It's quite selfish to be against it actually.

 I seriously hope that isn't adressed to me. If it was, then, I am against homosexuals, you are against religion.  Religion does nothing to you either.  If it is selfish for me to be against homosexuals, then it is just as selfish for you to be against religion.

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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Thanks Dbib. Even if you don't agree with it yourself, which no one is asking, you can still accept that it should be allowed.


No thanks needed. My father is a homosexual, so basicaly any guy he has dated, ive known for the most part. So i am pretty sympathetic to homosexuals in general. I have seen that by and large they are no different from us. My father isnt femenine at all, hes just a lousy father, and thats not related to him being a homosexual, but moreso a drunk. If you are so against homosexual marriage, ide like to hear why, it cant hurt you physicaly, only your principles and morals will be hurt, by this we can only infer, you are the problem, you personaly, is the problem, not the homosexuals that want to be married. My old bowling instructer had lived with his boyfriend for 15 years. Tell me how them living together is any different from them getting married, besides tax benifits?
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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Originally posted by hashi2008 hashi2008 wrote:

Marriage is "the mutual relation of
husband and wife", or "the institution whereby men and women are joined
in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of
founding and maintaining a family". I see nothing in there about
2 guys, and I see nothing about two women either.


The fact is that marriage has nothing to do with
homosexuals. What is the best solution? In my opinion it is
to make a new kind of bond. Call it a civil union or something, I
don't care, but it isn't marriage. I think that the only reason
that some homosexuals are against the option that I sugest is because
they just want to prove a point or are just stubborn.


I am personaly against homosexuals, but I don't care what they
do as long as it isn't against the law and as long as it doesn't affect
me.



Two men can do this. Two women can do this. And a man and a woman can do this.

  It says men and women are joined. You may take this as allowing two men or two women, but seeing as how almost every dictionary that I see defines it as A man and A women, then that's how I take it.  If you want to get all technical, "men and women" could just as easily mean 3 men and 3 women, but that isn't reality either.

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Of course I'm against religion, but if you took the time to read a little you'd see that I am not for making it illegal. I understand that it is for people not like me and that it is okay. For you to be against homosexual marriage is very selfish in the fact that because it doesn't pertain to you, you still want it to be outlawed. Even though I'm atheist, I have no problem with those that are. I was only joking about outlawing religions.
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I will retract what I said. I am not AGAINST religion. As that seems to be too much of a forceful word. I am atheist, so I don't AGREE with religion.
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Originally posted by hashi2008 hashi2008 wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Originally posted by hashi2008 hashi2008 wrote:


Marriage is "the mutual relation of husband and wife", or "the institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of founding and maintaining a family". I see nothing in there about 2 guys, and I see nothing about two women either.


The fact is that marriage has nothing to do with homosexuals. What is the best solution? In my opinion it is to make a new kind of bond. Call it a civil union or something, I don't care, but it isn't marriage. I think that the only reason that some homosexuals are against the option that I sugest is because they just want to prove a point or are just stubborn.


I am personaly against homosexuals, but I don't care what they do as long as it isn't against the law and as long as it doesn't affect me.


Two men can do this. Two women can do this. And a man and a woman can do this.


It says men and women are joined. You may take this as allowing two men or two women, but seeing as how almost every dictionary that I see defines it as A man and A women, then that's how I take it. If you want to get all technical, "men and women" could just as easily mean 3 men and 3 women, but that isn't reality either.



Deffinitions change. The dictionary is not a legal document, nor should it be used to define the law. Throughout the ages deffinitions have changed countless time.
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Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

I have yet to hear a good reason to ban Homosexual Marriage other than



  • Ewww its Icky!

  • They cant have kids

  • Bible says so

None of them can or should be bases for a law.




Exactly. Very, very well said.


Linus, can you tell me please, how same sex marriage directly affects you in any way?
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