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    Posted: 07 June 2005 at 3:58am

Ok, ever since I ran out of the oil that came with my A5, I have been looking for a safe oil to use in my gun.

On one hand I hear Hoppe's #9 is Tippmann recommended, on the other hand I hear it eats away at your O-Rings.

Now, I couldn't find Hoppe's #9, so I found the next best thing (or so I think) Hoppe's Elite - Gun Oil. I am curious if this stuff is even safe to use, I mean I asked some kid (around my age) if the stuff is fine to use, and he said sure.

But I got to looking at it after I bought it and it says stuff like:

"Metal Conditioning"

"Hard Core Lubrication"
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"a Hard Core Cleaning System"

Now, I may be stupid, but I am not completely sure I want something so hard core. I mean, I want something soft and nice to my rubber and plastic parts.

I have silicone oil left over from my airsoft gun, is that good to use? I mean, it's kinda thick compared to the Tippmann supplied stuff.

I am just so confused because there seems like there is no exclusive widely available proven oil you use in these guns.

I feel like beating myself over the head with my A5 right now.

And yes, I know, this is a really newbie thing to post, but I really have no idea.

And I would really like someone from Tippmann to reply to this.

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it says right in the manual to use hopps #9 oil if you still aren't shure call tippmann 1-800-533-4831 they will be glad to assist you
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Hoppes #9 is what Tippmann gives you to start with. It can be found in any Meijer, Walmart, K-mart. In the gun section. Orange plastic bottle.
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So how about:
Hoppes'
Elite
Gun Oil

Because that's what I have... I figured it might be better than plain old Hoppe's 9, like it's basically the same stuff but better quality or something.

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don't know all i know hopes elite isn't hopes #9 is it worth screwing up your gun for a $2 bottle of oil?
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3m makes a good oil /conditionor i use it on all my guns (fire arms) aswell as my fishing rods check it out its all weather non corrosive i havent had any problems
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I'm sure you can find more hoppes #9 if you look around. I have used gold cup oil on my 98 and A-5 for a while because I had the same problem and it hasn't eaten away at any o-rings so you can try that if it's easier to find. The stuff is made for paintball guns so it makes sense for it to be safe to use on o-rings.
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Actually, the silicone oil will worl just fine. Silicon oil is compatible with all "o" rings (except maybe some silicone "o" rings)

Elite is fine. Compatible with "o" rings. Buy any pneumatic tool oil, 3 in 1 oil, or just about any gun oil. Now, even if you use an oil that softens your "O" rings, you should be replacing them periotically anyway and even the wrong oil just shortens the life of the rubber. You'll probably replace it before it starts to disintergrate.

Heck, I have used WD-40 with no detectable deterioration for 8 months with the same "o" rings. This is not something to get excized about. I actually like a little lithium grease on my rear bolt "o" ring. Only problem I have ever seen with any "O" rings in the marker have been when I failed to lubricate at all.

 

Originally posted by SgtPoisonMiller SgtPoisonMiller wrote:

Ok, ever since I ran out of the oil that came with my A5, I have been looking for a safe oil to use in my gun.

On one hand I hear Hoppe's #9 is Tippmann recommended, on the other hand I hear it eats away at your O-Rings.

Now, I couldn't find Hoppe's #9, so I found the next best thing (or so I think) Hoppe's Elite - Gun Oil. I am curious if this stuff is even safe to use, I mean I asked some kid (around my age) if the stuff is fine to use, and he said sure.

But I got to looking at it after I bought it and it says stuff like:

"Metal Conditioning"

"Hard Core Lubrication"
and
"a Hard Core Cleaning System"

Now, I may be stupid, but I am not completely sure I want something so hard core. I mean, I want something soft and nice to my rubber and plastic parts.

I have silicone oil left over from my airsoft gun, is that good to use? I mean, it's kinda thick compared to the Tippmann supplied stuff.

I am just so confused because there seems like there is no exclusive widely available proven oil you use in these guns.

I feel like beating myself over the head with my A5 right now.

And yes, I know, this is a really newbie thing to post, but I really have no idea.

And I would really like someone from Tippmann to reply to this.

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Hoppes 9 is a great gun oil. I'm not sure about the Elite though. I'd just take it back and look around for 9.
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I would still like to some tippmann guy respond to this...

how about I soak an extra o-ring in this oil for awhile and see what happens to it or something?

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I would send an e-mail to tippmann directly. I think the tech guy's e-mail is tech@tippmann.com but you should head to the contact section of the site to make sure. Just ask them whatever you want to know and they'll respond within a few days. I have asked them dozens of questions and they've been very quick to respond. In fact, it's not uncommon for them to respond the next day. If that doesn't work then give them a call and they'll have to answer you .
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you can use any air tool oil. since the marker is an air tool. tools like nail guns and such are sealed the same way, with orings and plactic inside. Hoppes #9  is safe to use, also try Marvel Air Tool oil. but any air tool oil is safe.
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I've used many different oils in my 98/A5. They worked fine afterwards.
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yeah, call Tippmann don;t e-mail them. Much quicker respnse time.

Tippmann doesn't monitor their message boards.
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Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

yeah, call Tippmann don;t e-mail them. Much quicker respnse time.

Tippmann doesn't monitor their message boards.


Sure they do, I get quick responses all the time.
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O-rings are typically made from two different materials, either rubber or neoprene.  Petroleum based lubricants will break down rubber, but not harm neoprene.  Mineral oil type lubricants, like Hoppes #9 are good for all o-rings.  So if you're sure you dont have rubber o-rings, then use any lubricant you want.
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Originally posted by mod98commando mod98commando wrote:

Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

yeah, call Tippmann don;t e-mail them. Much quicker respnse time.

Tippmann doesn't monitor their message boards.


Sure they do, I get quick responses all the time.

Well, I guess I must be asking the unanswerable questions, I haven't received any replies to my emails to them in weeks.

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That's strange. What kind of questions are you asking? Maybe there are some things they don't want to tell you for whatever reason and they don't know how to dodge the question without just ignoring it entirely.
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Originally posted by mod98commando mod98commando wrote:

That's strange. What kind of questions are you asking? Maybe there are some things they don't want to tell you for whatever reason and they don't know how to dodge the question without just ignoring it entirely.

I have been asking if I coud buy just part of the Low Pressure Kit. I have installed on my 98C the E-Bolt so I would like to buy just the verticle adaptor with the expansion chamber and the modified valve (power chamber). As I don't need the new rear bolt (hammer) and spring. No answer.

Before that, I asked that with the installation of the E-Bolt and a Palmer Stabilizer what parts were available to me to get my marker into true low pressure operation. No answer.

Another question was whether there was a modification to the valve that reduced the rear blowback gas since it was no longer needed for my E-Bolt equiped marker. No answer.

I actually haven't been pestering them. These questions were submitted over a period of about to months.

(BTW, on reducing that blow back gas, I have come up with an easy modification of the valve that stops virtually all of the blow back loss.)

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Originally posted by SgtPoisonMiller SgtPoisonMiller wrote:

I would still like to some tippmann guy respond to this...

how about I soak an extra o-ring in this oil for awhile and see what happens to it or something?

Loller, good luck with that!

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