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Originally posted by Bugg Bugg wrote:

Friend of mine said

"We should make the Rio Grande pure gasoline, and have it turn on and off at will. When someone goes to the border, keep it on for a while, than just turn it off, they will start to cross and you turn it on again"


You're friends with Jake Johannsen?
   
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Originally posted by SeaWolf SeaWolf wrote:

Originally posted by Bugg Bugg wrote:

Friend of mine said

"We should make the Rio Grande pure gasoline, and have it turn on and off at will. When someone goes to the border, keep it on for a while, than just turn it off, they will start to cross and you turn it on again"


You're friends with Jake Johannsen?


Can you respond to my earlier post if you happen to get a chance?
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Originally posted by hwayhzrd hwayhzrd wrote:


<div style="text-align: center;">I didn't say every superpower fell the
same way, some were eclipsed by a greater nation, but hopefully you get
the point of what I was saying and can see some similarities.

Immigration is a HUGE problem, and Bush is dropping the ball AND
kicking it across the floor with this "amnesty" nonsense, especially in
the post-9/11 world.

The 9/11 hijackers had over 50 valid drivers licenses between them, and now he wants to make it easier?

Oh, yes, they cancer is in the body politic of the United States, but
do we have the guts or wherewithal to deal with it?  I have my
doubts ...

EDIT: Homosexuality the problem?  That is not a fair statement. I
have know many "**edited**" people over the years, and for they most part they
had a more accurate "moral compass" than many so-called bible beaters I
have had the misfortune of knowing.

If you don't think illegal immigration is a pressing problem, you better wake up, the house is already on fire.




FOr the most part I agree. Immigration is a massive problem. If it does not get fixed we will be be doomed. Also. Welfare is becoming a problem. I think it is an amazing program that is needed. But some people just dont work and milk the system because its easier. Thats the problem with that. Eventually that will become more widespread. homosexuality is not the issue. I cant see how that would lead to a nations demise. Especially the Rome arguement. The Huns, Carthage, and many others waged war against them and they eventually collapsed. Rome also let the nations they conquered fight in their armies who werent loyal to Rome. That doesnt help a nation either. People need to realize that diversity is great. but unity is key. our Nation NEEDS a set language. THERE IS NO national Language last time I checked. unless I am completely ignorant. English is the dominate language and should be the national language. We DONT need a national religion. but it wouldnt hurt. Until there is more unity like there was after 9/11/01 America wont last forever. There is more individualism than teamwork. More ME than US. All we need is unity and we will be ok. You can conquer an individual. an individual can fall. but a team is impossible to defeat.
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Originally posted by Kristofer Kristofer wrote:

IS NO national Language last time I checked. unless I am completely ignorant. English is the dominate language and should be the national language. We DONT need a national religion. but it wouldnt hurt.

So what exactilly would a national language and religion mean?

Make all other languages and religions illegal?

Isnt part of that why we started America to start with?


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It wouldn't be that they're illegal, but the point is, we're setting a language that everyone should communicate in. Heck, when a German scientist talks to a Japanese scientist, they speak English, why can't our whole country?
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Originally posted by Ejp414 Ejp414 wrote:

What do you propose then, SeaWolf? Are you in favor of locking the
borders outright? Do you oppose the idea of pluralism? Do you agree
with the e-mail's speaker that there are intrinsic differences between
races that cause, for example, Hispanics to suffer from higher drop-out
rates?


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Originally posted by Kristofer Kristofer wrote:

We DONT need a national religion. but it wouldnt hurt.


Read up on why people left England for America...
   
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Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by Kristofer Kristofer wrote:

IS NO national Language last time I checked. unless I am completely ignorant. English is the dominate language and should be the national language. We DONT need a national religion. but it wouldnt hurt.

So what exactilly would a national language and religion mean?

Make all other languages and religions illegal?

Isnt part of that why we started America to start with?



Oh come on, other nations have national languages, you don't see them whipping their citizens into submission. They get along just fine. I expected better out of your liberal nazi self.
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But the question stands:

What does "national language" mean?  That's just a buzzword.

Here are some options, right off the top of my head:

1.  All public documents must be available AT LEAST in English.

2.  All public documents must be available ONLY in English.

3.  Everybody who doesn's speak English gets deported.

4.  Schools must teach English.

5.  Schools must teach ONLY English.

 

Some of those are already the case (at least mostly), others are not.  Which brings me back to "what does 'national language' mean"?

BTW, on a historical note, the US has NEVER been monolingual.  There have always been large enclaves where no English has been spoken.  There have always been millions of people living in the US who don't speak English.  Yet we managed to stumble on by somehow.

So what exactly are we talking about doing?  Specifics, anyone?

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Personally, I think that while it shouldn't be illegal not to know English, we should say "English is our language". Not necessarily everyone has to know it-but it's a good thing to have. No rules saying you have to speak it to live here, just that it's the language we communicate in, so the things that are official documents here come in that language: passports, drivers licenses, etc. They already do, the only difference now is that we're going to say that we've got one language.

I don't really see it changing things tremendously, I just think it would be useful, maybe all these immigrants could communicate with me someday.
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So it's only a cosmetic issue?  Seems like a lot of fighting over something that will change nothing...
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Originally posted by Pariel Pariel wrote:

It wouldn't be that they're illegal, but the point is, we're setting a language that everyone should communicate in. Heck, when a German scientist talks to a Japanese scientist, they speak English, why can't our whole country?

Actually they use a lot of Latin because it's dead and no slang is introduced

Immigration is a problem but firstly we need to handle a few other problems

such as: SSI going to drunks drugees and people who fail high school on purpose and fat people who brought it on theirselves... WTH is the matter with our government?

Welfare...nuff said

Our debt and welfare and SSI just makes it worse

and much more but, it's late and I'm tired...

We will fall how long we delay it is up to us the poblems are like cancers spreading like rabbits in a forest with no climate changes or hunting

The U.S. will fall we are arrogant, we are corrupted, to make it to the white house you have to be corrupt, we are lazy, we don't care about the economy we have gotten a ME FIRST attitude just like Rome as their economy decayed and they fell...

And now my head hurts



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Originally posted by SeaWolf SeaWolf wrote:

Originally posted by Ejp414 Ejp414 wrote:

What do you propose then, SeaWolf? Are you in favor of locking the
borders outright? Do you oppose the idea of pluralism? Do you agree
with the e-mail's speaker that there are intrinsic differences between
races that cause, for example, Hispanics to suffer from higher drop-out
rates?


I don't argue my political views on the internet, because then I have to come back and reply every 5 minutes...

I just post good conservative articles when they roll around


I'll make you a deal. I won't argue with your answers—just pretend it's a survey!
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I ehat yssurve (I hate surveys)

Man my keyboard's all jacked up from me beating on it to write my last post



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I took two surveys in the past two days at school, more than I have in the rest of the year. Plus, they were stupid, and a waste of my time. Stupid surveys.

I think it's important that we show unity-saying we have one language does that. But prosecuting people for not speaking that language wins the waste of resources award in my book. We really need to crack down on immigration, and fix the whole Mexican border thing. Maybe we could do some sort of program like what we [used to] have with Canada(this idea was stolen from my dad). It used to be that all you needed was a drivers license to get into Canada from the US, now you need a passport too. But you can just go in and out, just wave your ID both ways(and wait a couple hours in a line). I think that would solve the Mexican immigrants problem, because we could transfer a lot of border agents to the checkpoints at our borders. At least, it works in theory-I don't know if illegal crossers would still try to go when it's that easy to come here.
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I think there needs to be more agents at the borders not letting Americans back in. If they leave, they cant come back. If it is so great here and crappy everywhere else why do you get to leave. Once your out, your out.

As for language, I cant understand anyone east of Utah.

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I think we should pull a Japan and surprise attack someone I mean it's about all they're good for besides making movies your mother wouldn't want you to see video games and consoles and some cool cars on second thought we'll let them stay...

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Pariel, we don't use the lisence plan with Canada because terrorist can easily make fake canadian ones.


And, dumb idea to use it with mexico. If we did, they'd make fakes, come into the US and never leave.
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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

EJP wins.
Really?

Well, in reality, he lost, look at page 2 near the bottom, HWAYS post

Originally posted by hwayhzrd hwayhzrd wrote:


I say kill two birds with one stone and lock those borders down NOW!
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