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I know what the Latin translates to.

Your proving my point. If English is so important why isnt all the the Latin on the Nation's documents and things not written in English.

I am done. Have fun wasting your time debating something so irrelevant, unnessisary, and dumb.
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He also said we should have a national religion. I expect you think that that would be ok as well.
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Hey, you're debating it too Hades....

And it's not in latin becasue Latin is know mainly by educated people, yet most of the country should know english.

Hey, English is the worlds business language, and pilots must knwo it for international flights.
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I cant resist a train wreck... I never said I wasnt debating, too.

I propose we worship Satan and witches, since we are all evil and sinners.

Well I guess all those year I studied latin payed off.

Well as an Educated person, I demand that this counrty become more educated and we make the national langague Latin.

The requirement to stay here is now to learn latin. How do you like it now?

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I'm a bigger fan of becoming the slave of a Succubus. If you've got to be damned for eternity, thats the way to do it.
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Originally posted by Dazed Dazed wrote:

He also said we should have a national religion. I expect you think that that would be ok as well.
No, freedom of religion is one of the main foundations in the US... but freedom from language isn't
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Someone needs to reread the Amendments. Start with the first one.
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I have it in my basement, have yet to see anything about language, than again i'm blind as a bat
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Bugg, you are trying to fight a losing battle. Learning english is not free, to get a good education it costs a lot of money. For these immigrants to make only pennies and then try to pay for school, that's ridiculous. This "they need to learn to accommodate us" crap is ignorant. Life is a two way street and the arrogant Americans should maybe give a little leway and take time to work on learning another language. It's called bettering ourselves, since we ask so many others to do it.

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Hey, dune, I love fighitn lost battles, it takes skill, sure I don't have the bets points, but I do pretty damn well, and I do raise many good questions.

2) If they live in the US, they don't make "pennies a day" Sure, there are a lot of factors, like housing and the like, but save me the pennies crap. Somehing called minimum wage, even if youa re illegal.

Now, there are exceptions, owners do try and get away witht he pennies a day crap, but for the most part they make ok money.
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Bugg, if you still are delusional enough to believe that Hway is for locking the borders then you should ask him yourself.

But since I know your going to throw some ridiculous, out-of-context quote that Hway already addressed into my face, how about this: I disagree with anyone who asserts that we should lock the American borders. Gotcha?
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Umm...you don't pay illegals minimum wage, since they aren't legal. They do make pennies a day.
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Originally posted by Ejp414 Ejp414 wrote:


But since I know your going to throw some ridiculous, out-of-context
quote that Hway already addressed into my face, how about this: I
disagree with anyone who asserts that we should lock the American
borders. Gotcha?
How about youa dmit that you were wrong there? Sounds good to me considering you were clearly wrong.
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Hway clearly stated later bugg, that he was using a different definition of "locked" than you were, and under no circumstances was he for the complete shutting down of immigration. A "hard locking" of the borders, if you will.

EJP quoted part of this clarification, assuming it to be sufficient for you, apparently it wasn't.

He was right, you're wrong. Hway clearly stated that he doesn't want to lock the borders to immigration. You clearly want them locked.

To quote Clark:
EJP wins.
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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Umm...you don't pay illegals minimum wage, since they aren't legal. They do make pennies a day.


I'm getting real tired of your anti-American crap Dune. You say a lot of things and provide no evidence for any of it. Even illegal farm workers make dollars an hour. It's often below minimum wage but it's a far cry from pennies a day. Who exactly are these people making less than a dollar a day?

More generally on topic. I think that it would be fair to say the current flow of illegal immigrants needs to be dramatically reduced (and if possible eliminated) while at the same time creating an immigration policy which allows a sensible number of immigrants to come to America with a minimum of hassle. It ought to be obvious that America still needs some level of immigration but at the same time we cannot hope to support the kind of numbers we did in the past, because we no longer have a "new Frontier" we are tryng to populate.

Regarding the need for a "national language", I think that's a bit foolish. English is the de facto national language and immigrants know this. Virtually all 2nd generation immigrants are at a minimum bi-lingual and a majority of 3d generation immigrants speak only english. Given time it will work itself out. I think most of the current "crisis" is caused by to many of one group coming to fast and it just scares people a little.

  
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Oooo, scary, anti-american, did your president lable me that?

"Pennies a day" is what we educated people like to call a catch phrase. Something often used to describe it in text. Yes they may make a few bucks and hour, but not enough to make enough of a living to go become a "productive member of society" as Bugg puts it. You people hate consistently on illegal immigrants, most of whom work harder than the lazy trash we have in America already. Bring them over, by the truckloads if we have to. I'm sick of this "rally around the flag" and "we own you" attitude this country has sometimes. I love being here, but I hate many of the igorants around me.

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Originally posted by Dazed Dazed wrote:

To quote Clark:
EJP wins.
Again, wrong

I'm still right becasue HWAY did say lock them down, which was the arguement. I never said how much he chose to lock it down, poitn stands he DID say it. And if you are too thick headed too see that.. well, thats your problem, because HWAY still did say it, no disputing that.
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Stop Bugg, you're aruing about a word, while they're arguing about context. You hate to be wrong so you try to act as if the original posts were about just the word "lock down" not what was meant and explained in later posts. Stop trying to weasel out of being wrong...you should be use to it by now.
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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

I'm sick of this "rally around the flag" and "we own you" attitude this country has sometimes.P]

It's not wrong to think your country is the best dune, arrogant yes, ignorant, HELL NO.

It's called patriosim. WHy do you think some Iraqis are fightign with us even though their country says no? Becasue they knows it's for the better for the country they themselves love. End of discussion
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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Stop Bugg, you're aruing about a word, while they're arguing about context. You hate to be wrong so you try to act as if the original posts were about just the word "lock down" not what was meant and explained in later posts. Stop trying to weasel out of being wrong...you should be use to it by now.
Hey, I never once argued about the context. I'm a man of technicality. If I can win on a technicality, God help me, I will. Nothing wrong with that.
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