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Clark Kent
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 3:27pm |
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It's a conspiracy, Hades. Don't tell the kids about STDs, don't talk about homosexuality. Then the young homos figure "well, we're not gonna get pregnant, so no need to use condoms." Then, when (surprise surprise) the homosexuals have higher rates of STDs, the powers can point to that as justification for why homosexuality is bad and shouldn't be taught in school. Genius, really.
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 3:40pm |
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I think if it was put in a class along with safe hetero sex it would be fine...
But if they make a specific class/lecture about "Safe Homosexual Sex," it sounds more like they're singling out homosexuals and that could cause problems. I would write a more thorough post, but I have to be to work in a few minutes... |
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 4:10pm |
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if we dont tell homo sexuals about condoms and such "evolution" will take care of getting rid of them
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 4:22pm |
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I can't believe it; I really can't. I told myself, "Gosh, I bet that if I were to go look into that thread at usafpilot07's post, then I'd come out thinking, 'What an idiot!'" And, my, was I right! |
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usafpilot07
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 4:26pm |
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well thats not fair, your stereotyping me just because of my name and yes, i realize thats sort of hypocritical |
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Clark Kent
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 4:39pm |
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If it's based on the person, I don't think it counts as "stereotyping" anymore...
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 4:39pm |
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Your name has nothing to do with it.
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 4:42pm |
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Its funny you used the word evolution, evolution and the like has nothing to do with homosexuality. How can homosexuality be passed on.. Homosexuals dont breed! |
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 4:44pm |
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No need to rub his idiocy in... oh wait, yes there is.
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 4:47pm |
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It boggles the mind.
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Clark Kent
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 4:51pm |
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At the risk of completely hijacking this thread... This statement furthers a common misunderstanding of the nature of evolution. Evolution can generate biological homosexuality just fine, and evolution can pass it on to future generations if it good for survival. EDIT - and, of course, your premise is wrong: Plenty of homosexuals have children. But that is irrelevant to the evolutionary point. Edited by Clark Kent |
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 4:58pm |
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I know this better than anyone. Dont lecture me on it. How can a trait like homosexuality be pased on for the good of a species? And i am fully aware that homosexuals have kids. Its not uncommon for a homosexual person to want a child. My dad is homosexual. He married my mom and fooled her for however long and father a child. Me, i dunno if that looks bad on him, or my mom, all i know is its kinda funny.
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 5:21pm |
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too bad evolution has been proved wrong, at least, original spontaneous life has
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 5:23pm |
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No it hasnt been proved wrong. Absolutly nothing has been proved. No one knows how life began, unless you can show me exactly how the first living creature came to be, you havent shows me anything.
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 5:31pm |
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Ha . . .Ha . . . My point is that there is no safe way to teach homosexual sex ed in a classroom full of teenagers. Maybe you havent been in high school latley but its FULL of immature twits. We had a play for the laramie (sp?) project, its mentioned in the article on the first page. Half the kids were either laughing, mocking the play or doing other stupid stuff to show their dislike of the play. Heck, a group of our resident emo/punk kids ran up the stairs screaming how they hate homosexuals. For those of you that have seen the play, when they show the protesters with the signs (I wont go into what they say, not forum appropriate) the majority of the kids cheered and clapped at them like they were funny. Imagine a unit on homosexual sex ed. The one or two or few homosexuals in the room are going to feel very akward and after the lesson the tools are going to give them hell. Also, every kid in the school knows who is homosexual and who is not, you cant try and hide it. You cant take them to a seperate room because that means more hell for them. I suppose you could try and intergrate the two carefully so it never focuses on homosexual safe sex or heterosexual safe sex but it would make getting the message across difficult. I'm sorry, I just dont see how your going to do it without more problems. You can think all the happy thoughts you want but I cant see a room with a group of ignorent teens making it through that unit without humilating the few homosexuals there. |
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 5:33pm |
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yes it has...because for biogenesis(evolution) to occur, life HAS TO come from life...therefore, the six original elements in the atmosphere could not have formed into bacteria. Redi proved this in the 1700's. |
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 5:38pm |
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You are going to quote a theologian from the 1700s, you havent proved anything.
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 5:40pm |
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No lecture intended... But I will answer your question, by easier parallel: Altruism. Let's say an animal species has this feature: Whenever danger threatens, all the young males encircle the tribe and engage in suicidal attacks on the enemy. This leads to very high death rate among young males - in fact, those males with lots of this trait are more likely to die. How can evolution create or permit a trait that INCREASES early deaths? Simple - evolution isn't about the survival of one entity. Evolution is about the survival of the gene pool. If the death of the individual is good for the tribe (aka gene pool), then that trait is an evolutionary positive, even though the trait increases the likelihood of death of the individual. Similarly, even though homosexuality decreases effective fertility of the individual, if homosexuality has other benefits for the gene pool that increases OVERALL fertility and survival, it ends up being an evolutionary positive. What are these other benefits for the gene pool? I have no idea. But just because homosexuals don't have (a lot of) children, doesn't mean that they are an evolutionary negative. Evolutionary value of traits cannot be evaluated in terms of effects on the individual. Evolution is not an individual concept. |
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 5:40pm |
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As much as I dissagree with usfa on what he said, in all fairness GS cited his beloved book a hundread times without sharing a tidbit of info from it |
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 5:41pm |
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What DiBi said. Check in with the 20th Century. |
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