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Clark Kent
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 9:39am |
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It doesn't. If you want to carry gun purely for fun, that's fine. But people should be honest with themselves. All I am suggesting is that many/most people have an unrealistic view of exactly how safe their gun makes them. They think their unloaded pistol under the mattress makes them invincible. Many people don't plan for reality - they plan for fantasy, but they THINK they are planning for reality. |
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Dune
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 9:48am |
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This is just too stupid to start combating. You really know that cops against CCW are all crooked, or did your parents tell you that? Come one, there is no respect for law enforcement anymore, and we're just trying not to get shot by those who claim "better safe than sorry." Law-abiding citizens have bad days, stress out, do stupid stuff, and consequentially, may end up shooting and officer to avoid arrest. It happens...a lot. |
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Bugg
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 9:51am |
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which makes me sad couse a really close budy of mine works in the 2nd most dangerous district in Detroit...
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Dune
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 9:54am |
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Yeah, Detroit is rough, I've done some work there.
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Bugg
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 9:55am |
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Ya the cop was my first boss ever when I worked at the paintball arena.. very cool guy, best boss you could ever hope for
Kinda like a brother to me... Detroit is fine, just we you get to the ghetto part it's bad I live 45 min away from the D. so I know what it's like in diff area...I help out at a soup kitchen a lot |
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Dune
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 10:17am |
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I feel as if people truly believe that they are going to be victimized and actually need a weapon to protect themselves. It is the owning of these weapons that allows for the death of so many innocents each year, but "we gotta have 'em to protect are material goods."
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 10:35am |
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The thieves were probably getting supplies to make meth. This is a common occurance for farmers/ranchers up here in Montana. We should immediately outlaw farm/ranch supplies. Edited by Mack |
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Bugg
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 10:38am |
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But you know what, while you and I are on the ACLU talk, if they outlaw ownership of guns that would be unConsitiutional and the ACLU would HAVE to fight for it...
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Dune
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 10:39am |
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Very true, but I am not advocating the outlawing of all guns.
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 10:42am |
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I have no problems with guns if people use gun safty to its fullest.
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Bugg
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 10:43am |
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Guns don't kill people bullets do
or more accuratly guns don't kill people crazy extremist do |
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Dune
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 10:45am |
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Guns don't kill people, irresponsible people do. Irresponsible being anyone that thinks that just because they're law-abiding they can leave their loaded weapon around their kids.
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 10:47am |
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I think, to be fair, if a cop wants to carry a gun, and is able to shoot me, i should be able to shoot him. And if im going to carry a gun, he should be able to carry a gun to shoot me.
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Dune
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 10:48am |
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How is it fair that you can shoot a cop because he can shoot you? That might be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. Cops just don't go around shooting people for no reason. Granted, not all cops are good, but that is no reason to arm the public AGAINST the police.
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 10:50am |
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 11:03am |
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Of course its rediculous, but i live in the DC metro area, im fed up with hearing about black guys getting shot by accident by stupid cops. |
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 11:07am |
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hey dune im planing on getting my ccp in a cupple of years. for the most part i respect cops (i have met a few that are on power trips). now say i get pulled over for speeding or im comming home tired just something minor. at what point if any should i tell the officer im armed. im thinking when he asks for my licence saying "i have a gun" wouldent be all that good. should not say anything unless they ask me to exit the car? should i just say i have my ccp and i have a pistol on my person?
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Dune
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 11:07am |
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I agree that the nation needs new training for law enforcement in dealing with special circumstances. However, that doesn't make it right for all cops to fear for their lives even more than we already do. I recently watched a fellow officer almost kill a young boy because he was holding an airsoft pistol and when the cop pulled his weapon, because the fake one looked real, the boy threw both hands infront of him. The officer was a veteran, so he halted, but if it would have been a rookie, the kid would have been killed. If more people on the streets have real guns, I would hate to imagine the war.
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Dune
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 11:09am |
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From my perspective, I know I have pulled people over who probably had weapons, but since it was routine and there was no supsicion, I did not ask. However, it is the responsibility of the driver to let the officer know that there is a weapon in the car. Plus it gets a few brownie points when you show respect like that. |
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Posted: 20 April 2005 at 11:12am |
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But, and I may be wrong, you don't have to declare a weapon unless you are being arrested... hell you can have a M-16 LEGALLY and cops can't do anything about it
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