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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:


By the same token, WITH gun control it is potentially possible to entirely outlaw guns so you have a police force running around with bows and arrows.  I mean c'mon, its politicians deciding these things, do you REALLY expect them to use common sense?

Yes.

It's fun to make jokes, but most of the time the government acts fairly rationally, or at least in tune with public sentiment.  Most people agree with most of the criminal laws.  Most people agree with most traffic laws.  Fundamentally, most people agree with most things that the government (at any level) does.  We just make a really big fuss about a few things.

Sure, it's "possible" to outlaw all guns.  It's just not realistically likely.

But - my point was simply that people who are simply "against gun control" are idiots.  Everybody favors some degree of gun control.  All we are debating is how much, and what kind.

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Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:


Well, in Wilmington while getting food, me and my dad saw what we
seemed a kidnapping.  We say this black male (about age 35-45)
kicking and shoving a black female (age 15-20) into an SUV at a gas
station.  Had my dad bothered to bring one of his Colt 1911 .38 beretta, he would
have probably gone and checked it out.


so wait, because you didn't have a gun, you didn't do anything?
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Shoulda saved money on the gun, and bought a cell phone instead...
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Gun control=Decent sight picture and a steady hand..................
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^^^^^^   Old...

Time for some new slogans.

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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

Gun control=Decent sight picture and a steady hand..................
 

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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

Gun control=Decent sight picture and a steady hand..................


To what level?  Completely out lawing them or to a point?

As said a few times, "control" is a broad term in this particular subject.

I personally believe in control to an extent.  More so with the paperwork aspect rather than completely making them or particular ones illegal. 


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you totally missed my point.  Hold the gun steady, shoot the intended target.
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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

you totally missed my point.  Hold the gun steady, shoot the intended target.


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i like my point better
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Criminals don't follow laws. So who will be disarmed with the addition of more laws?  Honest people that register their guns with law enforcement.  If some of you don't want to be able to protect your families from an intruder that's your choice. 

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Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:


I personally believe in control to an extent. More so with the
paperwork aspect rather than completely making them or particular ones illegal.


If I needed a gun ASAP... I'd be SOL with the waiting period. If a criminal needed a gun ASAP... he'd have no trouble at all.

That's where the error lies...

No matter how hard they make it to buy a gun, criminals will still be able to get them. And even if they couldn't, wouldn't they just resort to knives? Last I checked, there are other things that can kill people.

I also like to ponder this one:

If a gun is used in a crime, liberals think that shooting should be outlawed.

If a baseball bat is used in a crime, why not outlaw baseball?
   
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Originally posted by SeaWolf SeaWolf wrote:

Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:


I personally believe in control to an extent. More so with the
paperwork aspect rather than completely making them or particular ones illegal.


If I needed a gun ASAP... I'd be SOL with the waiting period. If a criminal needed a gun ASAP... he'd have no trouble at all.

That's where the error lies...

No matter how hard they make it to buy a gun, criminals will still be able to get them. And even if they couldn't, wouldn't they just resort to knives? Last I checked, there are other things that can kill people.

I also like to ponder this one:

If a gun is used in a crime, liberals think that shooting should be outlawed.

If a baseball bat is used in a crime, why not outlaw baseball?


Why in the world would you need a gun ASAP?  Assuming you are an honost citizen, what would you need a gun this instant for?
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Originally posted by rancidpnk13 rancidpnk13 wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:


Well, in Wilmington while getting food, me and my dad saw what we
seemed a kidnapping.  We say this black male (about age 35-45)
kicking and shoving a black female (age 15-20) into an SUV at a gas
station.  Had my dad bothered to bring one of his Colt 1911 .38 beretta, he would
have probably gone and checked it out.


so wait, because you didn't have a gun, you didn't do anything?


Why would you enter a potentially hostile situation without being sure you would be able to help?  Thats putting 2 more lives on the line.  The people around didn't seem to take notice, so I assumed it was a boyfriend.  This guy looked about 40, but we were at least 200 feet away.
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Moral- Carry around a sawed off hidden under your trench coat.
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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

Criminals don't follow laws.

Gah! 

Enough with the slogans!!  This is a horrible "argument", and always has been!

By this theory, we shouldn't bother with laws against murder, since murderers won't obey them anyway.

By this theory, we shouldn't bother with any laws at all, because some people won't obey them.  Dumb dumb dumb dumb.

Besides, beyond being dumb, this "argument" is obviously false, and completely irrelevant to boot, since many gun control laws work indirectly anyway.

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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

Criminals don't follow laws.

Gah! 

Enough with the slogans!!  This is a horrible "argument", and always has been!

By this theory, we shouldn't bother with laws against murder, since murderers won't obey them anyway.

^If you are willing to commit a murder, do you think you are willing or trying to follow the law which makes murders illegal?  If you are going to commit a crime, obviously you aren't going to obey the law against it therefor you are commiting a crime, and a criminal.  Criminals don't abide by the laws in which they are breaking.

By this theory, we shouldn't bother with any laws at all, because some people won't obey them.  Dumb dumb dumb dumb.

^No.  Laws should be kept as they are, but not everyone will obey them.  Just like everything else, "everyone is not on board" with it I suppose.

Besides, beyond being dumb, this "argument" is obviously false, and completely irrelevant to boot, since many gun control laws work indirectly anyway.

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Hey!

Gun-Control

Instead of worrying about getting trashed for my 21st birthday...I'll be gettin' my CCW!

Then I'll be carryin' two Colt 45's in a dual shoulder holster!

I'm already goin' on Repo-Runs...plannin' on movin' into Bounty Hunting here before long...prolly withing the next year or two.

 

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"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
-Adolph Hitler, 1935.

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