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Not every one will ever agree on the subject of the death penalty.  I think that it should stay but only for the people who habitualy raped or murdered or constantly broke a law.  No I not saying we should put people to death for illeagly parking but a major law mass murder for example
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Originally posted by tippmannboy2 tippmannboy2 wrote:

I think that if you raped someone then you should be raped and put in jail. If you killed someone say.... with a rock then you should be killed with rock about a day after your trial.
And if the coroner says the person you killed died slowly and pain fully you should die slowly and painfuly. And i think that if you torture someone then they should torture you untill the brink of death.

But nobody really cares what i think so it dont really matter.


You probly will be raped in jail... They need to do something about that. But on the other hand, prison is a bad place for bad people. But i dont think its right that people are raped so violently that they need thirteen stiches.
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Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

An impresionable 16 year old shoots someone. 10 years go by. He is no 26 and about to be put to death. Would you say that he is a different person. Now that he is 26? A child is very much like a sponge. Its how we learn. We observe and emulate what we see in our society. The actions he exibits are in direct relation to what he sees. If he grows up listening to music that does nothing but glorify violence, there is a good chance he will grow up violent. Juveniles are too impresionable to take such a harsh measure for punishment.



How come half of the time, I don't...or can't make out a word you're trying to say, then the next post is completely legible. You confuse me
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I have a split personality, leave me alone about it. Its probly that a lot of times im tired or really want to be understood. Other times...not so much.

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Umm, Dib, I don't know where you got that info, but it's wrong. The average cost for a person to serve on death row then be put to death, all of which is a madatory process is much more expensive than housing anyone for the rest of their lives. That is a proof positive fact that has been proven by thousands of individuals and criminologists.
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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Umm, Dib, I don't know where you got that info, but it's wrong. The average cost for a person to serve on death row then be put to death, all of which is a madatory process is much more expensive than housing anyone for the rest of their lives. That is a proof positive fact that has been proven by thousands of individuals and criminologists.


I dont have any information, im just trying to figure it out. But, this is asuming the prisoner doesn go through apeal after apeal after apeal. Its still cheaper then?
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That's the point though, the appeals process is not separate from death row, it's full process that is granted to anyone on death row. It's cheaper to put a needle in an arm, but that still doesn't make it right. However, the appeals costs must be put in, because it's a granted right.
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Hmm So the apeals process and all that is more expensive than simply housing an inmate. But the inmate will also file apeal after apeals. But the needel in the arm will stop the apeals.
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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

That's the point though, the appeals process is not separate from death row, it's full process that is granted to anyone on death row. It's cheaper to put a needle in an arm, but that still doesn't make it right. However, the appeals costs must be put in, because it's a granted right.

It would be even cheaper to throw someone a .45, and a full mag.

What is it for a .45 HP? Like $ .33?

.33 x 8 = 2.64

Cheap, easy, and immoral. What more is there to ask for?

 

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If you don't understand the process and the rights of an inmate, don't post. It shouldn't be your decision who is killed.

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Well even if they aren't put to death, MOST LIKELY, they will be suffering more than ever after they die.
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The whole being rapped and beatten and all that. Thats pretty bad too. I wonder if that really happens thogh. Im sure fights break out. But rapings. I wonder if it really happens like in the movies and all that.
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So it does happen. God thats awful, they should give them maile chastity belts.
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Dune you are very liberal about everything arent you.

But I have one question, how do you feel when someone kills and is sentenced to life only to get parole after a couple of years? What if that person kills again once they return to society. Im not for the death penalty when it comes to crimes of passion because those people usually returns to society with no reason to kill anyone else. But when the crime is unconscionably heinous like "The Black Widow" a woman named Betty Lou Beets who murdered multiple husbands for insurance money or Ted Bundy then I think death is necessary if for no other reason than the protection of society. If you put people like this in prison for life what do they have to lose to kill another prisoner? That dead prisoner has the right to safely serve his time for his crime and then return to society. Worse yet, what if the murderer is released on parole or escapes? Look at the reports by criminologist and you will see that the recidivism rates of sociopaths (Ted Bundy) is extremely high. Im not gonna lie and make up a number, I cant remember the real number at this point but I remember is being well above 75% because they just can't grasp with the way society works. In their mind they were doing right by killing all those people. I remember studying one killer who carried a yard stick and measured the grass in his victims yard to see if it was to high. Then he checked their house to see how clean it was and if it was dirty he would kill them. He got caught after killing an entire family of 5 minus one son who was gone at the time, the son is the one who found his family dead. The killer thought he was doing society a favor, do you want this man in prison with people like white collar criminals? He would probably kill again in prison because the cell was to dirty.

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Originally posted by sheriffhuck511 sheriffhuck511 wrote:



Umm, sheriff car numbers are 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, ect. 511 is a normal partol man.


**edit: im thinking of seargents(sp?)


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Originally posted by sheriffhuck511 sheriffhuck511 wrote:



Umm, sheriff car numbers are 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, ect. 511 is a normal partol man.


**edit: im thinking of seargents(sp?)


The numbers in my name are for my birthday- May 11. Not my rank, plus in my county we dont go by that number system, that is for large cities. The numbers for our officers are in the double digits only, the Sheriff is 81A, the Chief Deputy is D1, the Lt's are D4-10 and the Sgt's are D11-18. Investigators have their own number begining with I's like I3.

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