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If it bothers you, don't listen to it.

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Originally posted by cdacda13 cdacda13 wrote:

Originally posted by MetallicaESPa5 MetallicaESPa5 wrote:

Originally posted by cdacda13 cdacda13 wrote:

first off, if u r a true music fan, you will not dis rap. And if you do hate rap, you must not be listening to TRUE rap. Those songs with weed this and rims that is not true rap.

To get a real taste of TRUE rap, listen to some songs by Tupac, certain songs by Nas, Kanye West, and KRS one.

Rap is like any other kind of music, putting emotions to a beat.Doesn't metallica does the same thing expect with a rock beat.

Now, since i no this is a winless battle, im going to go back to lassing up my new shoes. Good nite and have a wonderful tommorrow.

P.S.- I listen to all kinds of music. Mostly rap though cause i think its one of the few remaining forms of true music left.



I'm sorry that when i think of rap music, i think of annoying singers with their bling, singing about cars and chicks.

Well, thats what the MTV socity shows you. Try listening to some less popular rap, like the ones i listed above. Rappers sing about bling and cars because thats wut sells records to the ignorant people.

i say the complete opposite, these "TRUE" rap songs sounds so boring and GENERIC, the only time i listen to rap is in cars reallly loud with big subs the the ones with crap lyrics but a god bass beat and yes i laugh at my self for being a **edited** sometimes, but 99% of the time im listening to old metal and rock so i redeem my self. haha

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I was named after a rapper and concieved to a rap song, so rap has done me good. With out rap, I would not be.

Enjoy! Thanks Dave. Here!!

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Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

If it bothers you, don't listen to it.

Word.

But I will defend rap.  I like quite a bit of modern poppy gangsta rap.  I like the beats, I like the bass, I like the lyrics, I like the outstanding emotive quality.  Who does anger better than Eminem?  Who grunts better than DMX?  Who does arrogance better than Dre?

Powerful beats, powerful bass, powerful lyrics - what's not to like?

In my experience, most people who flatly state that they don't like rap just haven't heard very much of it.

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Amen, Brotha. Word to your mother.

Dont forget about Snoop, he invented half of the words teens use today.

House of Pain, Jump Around. Beats any song played on MTV over the past 10 years.

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There was this one guy, I dont remember his name,
but he pretty much invented hip hop lingo. He
started "po-po" as police, etc... Snoop as well.

Hades, I was actually thinking about that ballin
pimpin hard video today... it's so frustrating...
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Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:


Dont forget about Snoop, he invented half of the words teens use today.

Snoop is also good, although a bit more of an acquired taste - very peculiar style.

(Doggystyle aside - who doesn't like Doggystyle?)

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DMX PWNS

EMINEM PWNS 1/2 the time but still PWNS

TUPAC PWND

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Other rap sucks. Unless someone corrects me by providing another example of excellent rap.
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I've heard some good rap, but as a rule it pretty much sucks.

But as a rule most everything that isn't good sucks, so I can't just bash rap.


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As a rule, people that criticize something tend not to know as much about it as the people who do like it.

This is one of those cases.

The best rappers are the ones you've never heard of, and of course, they come from the West Coast...the closer to the Bay Area the better.

I'm sorry, but if you like any of these studio rappers you would seriously love you some underground stuff!

And I hate to say it, but rap not only has better beats and rythme than any other kind of music, the lyrics are actually deeper as well.

But like anything, people are gonna listen to some Chingy and think they know about rap, when those homos on MTV are about as far from a real rapper as you can get.

Educate yourself about something before you knock it.
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The biggest beef I have with rap is the negative message that most of it portrays. However, there is some underground stuff that is not negative and is very good.

When I say that "as a rule rap pretty much sucks" I'm reffering to the mtv junk that most kids listen to.

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^Oh, I wasn't directly responding to you. I just read your post and thought the whole "as a rule" was a good style to go with this particular post! LOL

It's true, most rap could be considered negative. But like all music, it's a reflection of the life you live and the environment you are surrounded by.

If everything in your life is all good, you express that. If things have gone bad, you can flow about that as well.

I would personally just say I laugh when I hear people say rap has no good lyrics, when every one of their little punk/thrasher crap bands sounds the same and says like 5 whole words the whole song...all of them grunted so you can barely understand.

All I will say is that if rap has no lyrical content, nothing does.
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I don't mind rap, but I hate to think that some guitairist is sitting at home barely affording his apartment and has spent years perfecting his talent, and someone like Lil' Jon can come up and scream YEAHH!!!! and hes driving around in Hummers.

It just shows how eff'd up our society is, nobody really understands true talent.
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Originally posted by Heres To You Heres To You wrote:

I don't mind rap, but I hate to think that some guitairist is sitting
at home barely affording his apartment and has spent years perfecting
his talent, and someone like Lil' Jon can come up and scream YEAHH!!!!
and hes driving around in Hummers.

It just shows how eff'd up our society is, nobody really understands true talent.



I can toatlly feel you here! What's even worse, is there are just plain better rappers that are not getting paid while this chump screams in his repulsive voice and makes millions....freaking Americans have no class.
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Me, I like all types of music. But I agree that people don't like rap because of what they see on MTV (music destroyer). Try and listen to rap artists that nobody has ever heard of, like Immortal Technique. Go to the Viper Records webpage and get Immortal Technique's Revolutionary, Volume 2. Pay the 11.99 to listen to what real rap music is. Especially Track 17, You Never Know. Maybe after hearing it, you'll see the art behind the bling-bling, rims, pimpin, and **edited**es that is MTV rap.
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Originally posted by Zesty Zesty wrote:

Originally posted by Heres To You Heres To You wrote:

I don't mind rap, but I hate to think that some guitairist is sitting
at home barely affording his apartment and has spent years perfecting
his talent, and someone like Lil' Jon can come up and scream YEAHH!!!!
and hes driving around in Hummers.

It just shows how eff'd up our society is, nobody really understands true talent.



I can toatlly feel you here! What's even worse, is there are just plain better rappers that are not getting paid while this chump screams in his repulsive voice and makes millions....freaking Americans have no class.


I'm glad you pointed that out before I was flamed.  I do enjoy some rap, very little, but some.  There is definently some decent rap out there.

And to the forumer who said nas wasn't commercial rap.  What was his first breakout song?  "I got mine, I hope you got yourself a gun"
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Originally posted by reclusivetorrid reclusivetorrid wrote:

The biggest beef I have with rap is the negative message that most of it portrays.

Much of gangsta rap in particular certainly is misogynistic, homophobic, and violent - no doubt about it, and I can understand how that would drive many people away.  At the same time, however, those same things contribute to the emotional power of the music.  If I want mellow, I'll listen to Elton John.  If I want to start WWIII, I listen to Rammstein.  If I want to emote anger, I listen to Eminem.

Anger is also an emotion, and I don't want to leave it our of my music repertoir.

 

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All I have ever heard is the junk on the radio and on tv, and as a rule I don't like it at all. When you make up words so you can complete a verse, then your art form has ceased being music.

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