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Poll Question: Do you believe abortion should be allowed??
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Originally posted by newport newport wrote:

They're not killing anything.

I consider something to be "living" if it can survive on its own
without having to rely on a host. A fetus is nothing more than a
parasite until it can survive on its own, out of the womb.



A fair point.

I consider the fetus to be a living human though. It is simply in an earlier stage of development.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote phillll227 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2005 at 12:46am
Originally posted by newport newport wrote:


Originally posted by phillll227 phillll227 wrote:

My thoughts are that if you don't want a baby, don't have sex



So once a couple gets married and has sex, and the wife has a baby,
they're not to have sex ever again unless they plan on conceiving a
child?


Isn't that how it works? jk

All joking aside, I should have phrased that differently. People shouldn't have sex unless they are prepared to care for a baby.
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Originally posted by newport newport wrote:

What if the condom breaks? Or the chick missed birth control by 10 minutes?


It's their body, let them do what they want.

if the condom breaks...double up

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Doubling up increases friction and actually ups the percentage of breaking by a lot. You've never gotten laid, have you?

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well i never really thoughbt of it that way...i only said that cuz a few years back at this std thing my frined said that and it was dang funny
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Originally posted by newport newport wrote:

They're not killing anything.

I consider something to be "living" if it can survive on its own without having to rely on a host. A fetus is nothing more than a parasite until it can survive on its own, out of the womb.


So when you were a baby (outside the womb) and could not survive on your own you were not living and your parents could make you into a stew if they pleased?

A parasite is still a living thing.


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I'm with newport. I am fine with it.
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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

When a fetus is past two weeks in age its living.  Aborting it is murder, plain and simple.

Its not a case of women's rights, its a case of the baby's rights.

Darur then said:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Er, yes allow me to revise my original opinion.

I do feel that in instances such as the baby or mother's life if in danger and in the case of rape abortion should be allowed, but not because some 20 year old had sex and doesnt want to have a baby.

Not picking on Darur here - this is a common opinion.

My question:  If a fetus is living and abortion is murder, how is it not then murder in the case of rape?  Is that rape-fetus less living somehow, less deserving of life than a "regular" fetus?

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I put undecided but I wanted to put no. Woops.

The mother should not be allowed to kill her son before he is born more than she is afterwards. It's not his fault that she decided to have sex before she was ready to have a kid.

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Unless the mother's health is involved I say no.

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Under most curcumstances yes, it should stay legal.

Also, it is my personal opinion that it is the couple's decision only and no one elses business. Someone elses morals should have absolutely no bearing in the matter unless the couple themselves wish to concider them.

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I'm with you Hades. Seems to be a very common trend lately. Is this the union of Good and Evil, Dark and Light? Armageddon anyone?
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Funny thing is, alot of my current opinions are completely different from the day I joined. Living life and listening to other ideas does wonders to the mind. I am not saying that I have completely flipped sides on issues, just a lot more in the middle.

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Originally posted by Frozen Balls Frozen Balls wrote:

In the first trimester and in cases of rape, etc, it's ok by me.

yeh, in cases like that its fine, but if later or just because they have a decision not to want it, adoption is good

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There are too few real reasons to abort and too many alternatives. Denying that kid a life just because it might screw yours up is just wrong. 

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Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Adoption is good, ehh???


Yea, because all adoptions go that way....

My mom will be adopting from China in June-July, and I don't ever suffer abuse.

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Originally posted by newport newport wrote:

They're not killing anything.

I consider something to be "living" if it can survive on its own without having to rely on a host. A fetus is nothing more than a parasite until it can survive on its own, out of the womb.


What about a newborn baby?  If you sit it in its crib, it will die pretty fast without anyone caring for it.

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I know that not all adoptions go wrong [I know some perfectly good foster parents myself.] The fact remains that some do. Adoption cant be the end all solution for reasoning against abortion because for some children, it isnt what is best.

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