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Well, mad, the point wouldn't be to spray and pray. Even on fully automatic machineguns, bursts of 3-5 rounds are generally used. The same applies to automatic fire from something rifle or carbine sized- such as a paintball marker. And as I mentioned, getting this automatic thing to work would require dropping it to below 30 BPS at least- 25 or 20 would be mroe reasonable. 20 is about twice as fast as an M16 firing on full automatic, which is fast enough as is. In a paintball marker though, with easily controlled recoil on automatic, it could still be practical for CQB use. But again, the key is reducing the cyclic rate to about 20bps... And doing that mechanically would be a real paint in the ass.
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This has been done many, many times before and has been posted many times before and it is still a bad idea. You can't control the rate of fire and will blend paint no matter what. Buy an RT or E-Grip if you want faster rates of fire.

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Originally posted by Mad Psience Mad Psience wrote:

who needs to shoot 60bps
anyways.. it's senseless. Your hopper is gone in under 3
seconds...


you would need a 2000 round hopper for this to be even
worthwhile. even then I doubt you can do this without
shootdown.




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i have an idea.

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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Well, mad, the point wouldn't be to spray and pray. Even on fully automatic machineguns, bursts of 3-5 rounds are generally used. The same applies to automatic fire from something rifle or carbine sized- such as a paintball marker. And as I mentioned, getting this automatic thing to work would require dropping it to below 30 BPS at least- 25 or 20 would be mroe reasonable. 20 is about twice as fast as an M16 firing on full automatic, which is fast enough as is. In a paintball marker though, with easily controlled recoil on automatic, it could still be practical for CQB use. But again, the key is reducing the cyclic rate to about 20bps... And doing that mechanically would be a real paint in the ass.

thanks man...thats exactly what id use it for...

i figured another use for it....dont throw any paint in, but fire a one heck of a monkey-bustin burst as a bit of a pregame show...gives them a reason to think twice before cheap shoting me

we're rural rec ballers up here-the only chance for autos we have are a ZAP (hey, it works, and bruce is dang good with it), four guys shooting at once, or low CO2 tanks haha...and i just figured it sounds cool and is fun to try, even if it doesnt work much

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Originally posted by Mad Psience Mad Psience wrote:

it's cool you discovered that but I think just getting an e-grip is more sound than using something as weak as a tooth pick. Maybe Replicate that toothpick part with steel or plastic and find a way to limit ROF better.

yeah, i thought about that, but i figured in case of a problem, the toothpick would give/break before the metal internals would, hopefully preventing damage 

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LOL, true, it would work for scaring newbies...

I actually came up with an idea a while ago that, with a bit of milling and drilling, would let you make a Tippy truly select fire- basically, rather than jamming the sear from inside, you'd apply pressure to it from behind. This could be attached to a fire selector of some kind. It would be fun to do that just for the intimidation value- come up behind some kid, flip the marker upside down so it doesn't feed, fire an automatic air-burst right behind him and call for a surrender- no way he'll say no after hearing that.

I still wish there was a viable way to slow the thing down... Maybe on a low pressure system it would be doable?
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hmm...the low pressure idea is interesting

by the way, im done posting about fireworks, explosive
propelents, or any other dangerous stuff, i understand it isnt an
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Originally posted by Klaus Klaus wrote:

hmm...the low pressure idea is interesting

by the way, im done posting about fireworks, explosive
propelents, or any other dangerous stuff, i understand it isnt an
acceptable topic for this forum


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um...why is crazy_dave posting so much?
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