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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bango Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2005 at 7:10pm

lol

Yeah it was fun.

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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Only when a Democratic administration intervenes in world affairs (Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia) is it considered correct and we should never question a Democratic Presidents decesions in world affairs.

And my question still looms, why was our intervention in the unjust war history called World War 2 never questioned. We destroyed two great civilizations and cultures and installed our values on these peacefull people who meant us no harm and were only forced into war with America by our war mongering Presidents foriegn poloicies of the time. The Japanese were tricked into attacking us, and FDR knew, for he wanted us in the war for the economic reasons he and his big bussiness freinds would profit on.
Yes, the Japanese were tricked into fighting us in WW2... go back to history class. In 1940 the Japs signed with Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, not with the Allies. I see that our economy was BOOMING during World War 2, and if you meant the Desert Storm conflict, our economy is still lowering. Don't tell us that we went to war to raise money, hell, we're about to give $80 billion to Bush.
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Originally posted by Banshee11B Banshee11B wrote:


This current debate had made me analyze certain aspects of the current situation that I had not done before. I have to admit that I really enjoyed this one. Thanks to all involved parties for helping me exercise something that I haven't in a seemingly long time. Except for, apparently, paragraph breaks....

Okay, now you're just sucking up B...

Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

I feel all warm inside when we can all be so rude to one another, and yet, skip off down the lane arm-in-arm to grandma's house

And THAT, was the funniest thing I've seen in some time... Bravo!

Finally, I think I can speak for all of the Chairborne Rangers in saying that OS really irritates us, especially when he rouses us at 0-dark-30 with some God-Forsaken bagpipe music after a late night of hanging with the OMHW crew....

All in good fun Top, all in good fun.  Poke the stick in the nest and see what flies out...


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This is promising...

Democracy on the Wing
by Michael Rubin
Washington Post
January 26, 2005
http://www.meforum.org/article/672

The images on al-Sharqiya, Iraq's most popular television channel, are slick and sophisticated; except for their language, they wouldn't be out of place in an American political campaign. Amid pictures of flags, ballots and Iraqi children, Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi promises "a bright future and a strong and competent Iraq."

Among the freedoms Iraqis -- Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds alike -- have embraced since Saddam Hussein's ouster is access to satellite television. Most Iraqis are news junkies, rapidly channel-surfing to catch the latest headlines. As I watched television with a Kurdish friend, Allawi ads ran repeatedly on Iraqi channels and on al-Arabiya, an Arabic satellite channel broadcast out of Dubai.

Allawi's political spots do not matter much in Najaf, where bloody urban warfare was waged just five months ago. The reason is not lack of interest but rather lack of electricity. Because of insurgent activity, the Iraqi government has been unable to supply fuel to the Musayyib power station, contributing to frequent power cuts. Ordinary Iraqis have to wait up to two days to purchase gasoline for their generators. They cannot afford to power their television sets.

Shiite politicians have accordingly taken different campaign tacks. Because insurgent violence limits the number of rallies possible, many broadcast their messages by radio, accessible to ordinary Iraqis with battery-powered sets. While Allawi is constrained by a wall of security, his Shiite competitors have adopted a grass-roots campaign. On Jan. 9, tribal sheiks from the outskirts of Najaf hosted a rally in the town of Mushkhab. Among those attending was Abdul Karim Muhammadawi, known as the "Robin Hood of the Marshes" for his resistance to Saddam Hussein's army before the American invasion. Former Governing Council members Ahmed Barak and Ahmed Chalabi also were there; Chalabi drove down from Baghdad for the event. Washington pundits who argue about whether the Sunnis will boycott the election missed an effusive greeting for Mudhar Shawkat and Sheik Fawaz Jarba, two Arab Sunnis who are running on the Shiite-dominated Iraqi National Alliance list, which has been endorsed by Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani.

I embedded myself with Iraqi friends in Baghdad's Mansour district, a diverse area that is home to many politicians but that has recently been the site of a number of bombings. After sunset, the generators go on and reception rooms are abuzz with local notables. In back rooms, politicians from across Iraq make deals and exchange gossip. They debate the efficacy of Gen. David H. Petraeus's training program for the new Iraqi military and how security might be improved. They discuss coalitions and post-election portfolios.

The latest rumors involve speculation that the Shiites might offer the presidency to the leader of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, Jalal Talabani. Shiites and Sunnis discuss strategies to curb violence in Mosul. Some politicians disappear to consult with figures such as Iraq's interim president, Ghazi Yawar, a Sunni tribal leader from Mosul who is heading his own slate of candidates. Campaign staffers discuss slogans, poster designs and news releases.

On the streets of Baghdad, the campaign is also in full swing. Iraqis ponder voting by the number. There are more than 250 election slates, representing approximately 7,000 candidates. A lottery assigned each slate a ballot position between 101 and 365. Driving to Kadhimiya, a largely Shiite neighborhood in Baghdad, I see walls covered with posters for Slate 169, the Iraqi National Alliance. The posters alternately show a burning candle or the images of Sistani and the late Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Sadiq Sadr superimposed over the number 169. Streets along Baghdad's now-decrepit Abu Nawas corniche are emblazoned with posters advertising the Constitutional Monarchy Movement's leader, Sharif Ali bin Hussein, a Sunni businessman who has managed to attract significant tribal support. In a sign of tolerance and political maturity, competing campaigns do not obstruct one another's posters.

To Iraqis, the elections are no longer theoretical. With voting less than a week away, there is electricity in the air. Pundits and politicians can discuss whether the elections should go forward, but for most Iraqis, such debates are moot. Democracy may be a process, but it is one in which Iraqis are ready to take the first step.

The writer, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, is editor of the Middle East Quarterly.
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Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

I feel all warm inside when we can all be so rude to one another, and yet, skip off down the lane arm-in-arm to grandma's house

hehe, this thread reminds of that scene from "Rules of Engadgement" where Tommy Lee & Samuel L. get drunk and beat the crap out of each other. Good movie.

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Iraq will be in complete civil war in under a year.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Banshee11B Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 January 2005 at 2:26pm
Validate your reasoning... And what exactly do you mean by a civil war? If you mean an uprising by insurgents... that's happening now. If you mean a defined Shiite vs. Sunni vs Kurds, etc. please elaborate.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Badsmitty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 January 2005 at 3:56pm

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Iraq will be in complete civil war in under a year.

Shame on you.  You obviously unsupport the troops.

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Originally posted by Slimz.357 Slimz.357 wrote:

whoa dude...  like, does anyone know where I can get "Bush sucks" t-shirts? 'cause like I was watchin' this news station on the TV, and they said that like, Bush is bad cause he's killin' terorisists 'n stuff, so its gotta be true dude. like, Ive been watchin' them since they told me about how Bush, like, stole the election and is really Hilter's great-great-grandson an' stuff. But, like, it's totaly got to be true 'cause it was made by news people, right?



ever heard of yellow journalism?....oviously not....look it up
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He was being sarcastic.
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