Snipers

evil_fingers wrote: If you wish to be a sniper, either join the military to recieve the proper training to become one or join a scenario team and take part in one of those huge scenario type games like D-Day....but, if yer gonna say yer gonna be a sniper fer woodsball...."FERGET IT" theres no such thing as a sniper in woodsball.... A5 or 98c or whatever marker Flatline Barrel  Single trigger (double trigger if you feel more comfortable wit it)  There is no such thing as snipers in woodsball huh? Well thats stupid because there is and what you hopefully meant was that there was no snipers in speedball because I doubt anyone goes with a ghillie suit on a speedball course. And that one guy was right, thats stupid to think that there is no such things as snipers in paintball because there is and don't think there is just because some guy with alot of post said so. But don't feel stupid when you go to a scebario game and you got shot by a sniper and get pissed off. Lasers (dont even bother) Scopes (jus fer looks and to see further than what yer own beedy lil eyes can see) Stocks (whatever which one you want) Camoflauge clothing and gear (ghillie suits are useless) Above all that....use yer brain, thats what God gave you as a gift, so use it wisely......

Here is a bit o logic for ya........if just the fact that there are marketable items and web sites featuring "Santa Clause", "Easter Bunny", etc by the logic of -PREDATOR- each of these also exsist.

Because someone preys on the lack of knowledge of individuals and market "sniper" items, and some non proffesionals "teach" based on a false concept does not mean "paintball snipers" exsist. Still I look and to this day not one of our "sniper" wanna-bes have actually described the tactical application of a "sniper" in the realm of close "paintball" combat, where the weapons are of equal range and or accuracy, and the one overriding tactical aspect of the skill, "to engage the enemy with accurate select fire from outside of immediate visual aquisition range of accurate return direct or suppression fire" is violated, negating the tactical application of the skill and changing the contact by tactical definition to an "ambush".

"Lions and Tigers and Bears...Oh MY"



PS...My "Interdiction Rifle" consists of a SL68II (mod) 16in SL-CA barrel, siphon bottle, 5 rd tube(10rd cut down)NATO STANO spotting scope mounted off center

Quiz, What is the differance between the proven paintball application of an "Interdiction Rifleman" and the percieved application of a "paintball sniper"....

This should be good..............................

Edited by oldsoldier

98c Dude13 wrote: evil_fingers wrote: If you wish to be a sniper, either join the military to recieve the proper training to become one or join a scenario team and take part in one of those huge scenario type games like D-Day....but, if yer gonna say yer gonna be a sniper fer woodsball...."FERGET IT" theres no such thing as a sniper in woodsball.... A5 or 98c or whatever marker Flatline Barrel  Single trigger (double trigger if you feel more comfortable wit it)  There is no such thing as snipers in woodsball huh? Well thats stupid because there is and what you hopefully meant was that there was no snipers in speedball because I doubt anyone goes with a ghillie suit on a speedball course. And that one guy was right, thats stupid to think that there is no such things as snipers in paintball because there is and don't think there is just because some guy with alot of post said so. But don't feel stupid when you go to a scebario game and you got shot by a sniper and get pissed off. Lasers (dont even bother) Scopes (jus fer looks and to see further than what yer own beedy lil eyes can see) Stocks (whatever which one you want) Camoflauge clothing and gear (ghillie suits are useless) Above all that....use yer brain, thats what God gave you as a gift, so use it wisely......

Were you tryin to quote me on something? And if you were....you need to read it more closely.....snipers only exist in "SCENARIO GAMES" not in "WOODSBALL"....use yer brain there is a difference between the 2 games.

VTpaintballer wrote: man all sniper posts end up to be this way and not even toward to answering the persons ? about what stuff to get

Why would I answer a question about a figment of someones imagination? I'm not going to say snipers don't exist in paintball, and then go off and tell someone what they need to be a sniper.

This has gotten old.  Lemme see if I can get in before the lock.

People like to feel "special".  If you're part of an exclusive "club", then that makes you better than everyone else in your mind.  It's why people brag about being part of a given "golf club" or they can get into a resturant while you can't.  And so it goes with paintball.  People want to be percieved to be better than the average.  They want to show that they have skills, or status, that others do not.  Some players find this status in being a "Tournament" player, some by being "Sponsored", or a "field team" player and so on.

I feel that the whole "sniper" thing is a case of players wanting to feel special.  There's an air of mystery around the name "sniper", because nobody is 100% sure outside of the service what they really do.  It makes a player sound dangerous, lethal.  It creates a distance between a normal paintball player and themselves in percieved skill level.  "I'm a sniper!  I can sit in the back unseen and shoot you at any time."  It makes a normally mundane player feel more than the average.  They wear the "shaggy suit" and they get noticed, because it's different than everyone else at the field.  They dress the part, and they claim to play the part, and since there's no way to completely disprove the "sniper" player in the woods anyone can call themselves one.

"I didn't see you in the woods that game."  "No kidding!  I'm a sniper, remember!"  Well allrighty then....

So the debate, as it is, lives on partially because players need to feel special.  They need to keep the fantasy going that they are better than the average player.  Now this isn't to say that they have no skills, only that they feel a need to create a label for themsleves that makes them seem higher in ranking than just a "rec-player".  I know  alot of people who call themselves "Snipers" who really can play, but I also know a lot of (for lack of a better term) kids who buy into the term as a way to try and set themselves apart from others.

IMHO, that's the only reason this debate continues on and on.  If there were a ranking system, this wouldn't be a problem.  But, paintball has no way to really tell what skill level you are, so people have to use terms that they can find to describe themselves.  And "sniper" is one of them.

I still don't think that there is such a thing as a "paintball sniper".  There are sharpshooters who can longball you at over 200 feet, there are players who can do incredible things with camo, there are people who can sneak into your shorts and you'd never know it, but because of the definition of the role in military and police settings, I don't see paintball players filling the definition.  So therefore, there are no paintball snipers.

I know this post will stir up trouble, but it's just one player's opinion.

-Tyger

WDR-Tyger wrote: This has gotten old.  Lemme see if I can get in before the lock. People like to feel "special".  If you're part of an exclusive "club", then that makes you better than everyone else in your mind.  It's why people brag about being part of a given "golf club" or they can get into a resturant while you can't.  And so it goes with paintball.  People want to be percieved to be better than the average.  They want to show that they have skills, or status, that others do not.  Some players find this status in being a "Tournament" player, some by being "Sponsored", or a "field team" player and so on. I feel that the whole "sniper" thing is a case of players wanting to feel special.  There's an air of mystery around the name "sniper", because nobody is 100% sure outside of the service what they really do.  It makes a player sound dangerous, lethal.  It creates a distance between a normal paintball player and themselves in percieved skill level.  "I'm a sniper!  I can sit in the back unseen and shoot you at any time."  It makes a normally mundane player feel more than the average.  They wear the "shaggy suit" and they get noticed, because it's different than everyone else at the field.  They dress the part, and they claim to play the part, and since there's no way to completely disprove the "sniper" player in the woods anyone can call themselves one. "I didn't see you in the woods that game."  #ff0000>"No kidding!  I'm a sniper, remember!"[/ COLOR>  Well allrighty then.... So the debate, as it is, lives on partially because players need to feel special.  They need to keep the fantasy going that they are better than the average player.  Now this isn't to say that they have no skills, only that they feel a need to create a label for themsleves that makes them seem higher in ranking than just a "rec-player".  I know  alot of people who call themselves "Snipers" who really can play, but I also know a lot of (for lack of a better term) kids who buy into the term as a way to try and set themselves apart from others. IMHO, that's the only reason this debate continues on and on.  If there were a ranking system, this wouldn't be a problem.  But, paintball has no way to really tell what skill level you are, so people have to use terms that they can find to describe themselves.  And "sniper" is one of them. I still don't think that there is such a thing as a "paintball sniper".  There are sharpshooters who can longball you at over 200 feet, there are players who can do incredible things with camo, there are people who can sneak into your shorts and you'd never know it, but because of the definition of the role in military and police settings, I don't see paintball players filling the definition.  So therefore, there are no paintball snipers. I know this post will stir up trouble, but it's just one player's opinion. -Tyger

well said tyger.

tyger even has a video of this on his site. www.webdogradio.us

dont listen 2 the people who say there no snipers there jelus cause thev cant reach us when we are shooting them  so u have to get a flat line then a stock [car stock] then remote then adco shure shot laser scope [dragons den] in that order

sniper44 wrote: dont listen 2 the people who say there no snipers there jelus cause thev cant reach us when we are shooting them  so u have to get a flat line

Umm...

If you're not shooting a flatline, and you're outranging me, then I'm gonna wanna see a chrony on that bad boy, 'k?

And if ya ARE shooting a flatline, don't be shocked when I catch your ball out of the air and shoot it back.  Been there, done that. 

-Tyger

i think their can b snipers but im stayin neutral...but u need a stock but i hear u cant aim better with em. but u need a barrel, and maybe a scope. just to aim better not to see farther. and a remote if u want one. im a newb so just listen to them... lol

i just have to say this so guys plz dont flame me im postin my opinion just like everyone else... u dont nessesarally have to go through years of training to b a sniper. you dont have to shoot someone from 19471946 yards away. and u dont have to have all that camo and crap. and wat if they get close...u see that lil thing ur finger is on...PULL IT. gosh. and like yall that were sayin like 500 yards and stuff and never miss...HELLO, nobodies perfect, im pretty sure a few snipers missed at least once before in their lifetime...and to snipe someone in p.b. u have to get a LIL bit closer, that doesnt mean ur not snipin peeps.

 

ok thats just my opinion dudez so still PLZ for the love of god dont flame me for this, its just retarted....

omg this is so **edited**ing stupid.  Why the hell would u start up another topic on Snipers, I have lost count on how many there have been and EVERY one has led to an argument.  There are NO snipers in paintball.  Don't listen to those rambling morons AKA: -PREDATOR-.  I swear, that stupid kid gets dumber and dumber with every post.  The only reason he is useful is because it is funny as hell when everyone constantly rags on his ass for being such a moron.  If u want to shoot far though, I would suggest the Flatline.