Marine kills unarmed man

I try to put myself in the situation the marine was in..
You see he is faking he's dead, he makes no attempt to surrender, you don't know if the guy is holding on to a granade under his clothes. At that point I don't care what the media's gonna think, I wanna live and this terrorists would kill me and everyone else in the room in a second..

You are in a war zone. You don't have time to think about it..you can't hesitate or you might be coming home in a box.

It's easy to say handcuff him and pin him up with the rest of the prisoners while sitting at your computer..but when your there and your life is on the line it's shot first and let allah sort it out.

Ejp414 wrote: Bango wrote: Ejp414 wrote: evil_fingers wrote: Ejp414 wrote: Bango wrote: Dune, you still haven't told me what you think the Marine should have done instead. You keep saying how wrong it was, tell us how you think he should have handled it. Perhaps he should have not killed the unarmed, wounded Iraqi so we wouldn't be in this mess? Try saying that to the innocent non combatants that were being beheaded and mutalated by the Insurgents. So we should stoop down to their level? As I said, even if you are for killing every Iraqi we come into contact with, this killing clearly has been less than beneficial to our "cause"... How is it less beneficial? One less insurgent to worry about. Read Fatman Lash's post, it pretty much covers the fact that the only way to handle it was to shoot him. This isn't that difficult. First, Fatman's most recent post lacked both grammar and an explanation as to how that was the only way to handle the situation. Second, the action is less beneficial because now there is a video of a Marine shooting an unarmed, injured Iraqi circulating around the world--make of that what you will.

you think you have to be a freakin Harverd scholar  to prove a point by using perfect grammer? I laugh at you for that and I digitally kick you for that one to. Ok, if all you people that are saying the Marine should not of shot him can give me a viable way to handle it, without there being the possibility of the death of one or more soldiers. I will leave this topic never to return. BUT if I can find one way that it couldnt work, then you fail to prove there was a batter way to handle it. If you can give me ONE good way, just one, then I will leave.

lol

But what about the nerve gas drifting in the wind, there are civilians around, right.

and then that Insurgent sees the gas and pulls a grenade out and blows the place up.

I agree with slothbutt

The Russians used gas earlier this year, in a school.  But that was intended to be non-lethal gas.  The deaths were unintended, and very unpopular at every level.

When you say "nerve gas," that means something else entirely - Sarin, mustard gas, that type of thing.  AKA Weapon of Mass Destruction, of the exact type we were accusing Saddam of having/using.

Simply possessing such a weapon would violate all the treaties to which the US is a party - actually using it would completely void any moral ground the US could stand on - ever. 

While viscerally satisfying to contemplate the "nuke'em/gas'em" tactical approach, such an action would completely undermine every single strategic goal we have.

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actually using it would completely void any moral ground the US could stand on - ever
LOL yeah, but at least the precious buildings wuld be saved.   

Slothbutt wrote: evil_fingers wrote: Yer the only one who has answered my question as to "what would you do in that Marine's situation"... Everyone else seems to just want to bash the Marine and military while not coming up with any other solution. It's a war are guys are there to kill there guys (and there doing a fantastic job)

Exactly!!!

Dune wrote: Wow, you guys are firm believers that the military doesn't mess up and always "just does it's job." I'll just stick to my guns and at least try to be somewhat objective about this, because it seems as if no one else will. Being better safe than sorry is okay when we kill someone, but isn't if they are just protecting themselves. We are the invaders, they want nothing to do with us in their country, I know I would take up arms against America too if I was an Iraqi. It just seems as if people think are military is filled with above the law, god-guided men and women. These are people too, and they will and do make mistakes. What that guy did, was a mistake. I understand he was scared and worried for the rest of his men, but there are many angles that should have been taken, and if those steps were not taken first, then it is obvious that the soldier should be punished. I'm not saying that he should get the electric chair, I mean, I don't expect him to be the most calmed down person; however, he was quick on the trigger and did not think first. You can call it "liberal media" if you want, it always is just a "liberal" thing when some republican gets angry at what they see on tv.

 

Do you not realize that they were in captivity when SH was there??  These aren't the everday iraquis that are fighting us you moron!!  Those people are on our side!!  Didn't you see them tear down that statue when we took bagdahd???  The ones who are fighting us are the ones who are loyal to saddam!!  The normal people are happy because if you didnt know SH was a lot like Hitler in the fact that he liked to kill a whole lotta people if they didnt like the way things were!!  But I bet you would fight for them if you were there cuz we can all see that you have your head up your  

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