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    Posted: 20 October 2004 at 7:34pm

are the 02 autocockers anygood? better than the 98 or carbine??

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02 Cockers are good guns. They're better than a 98 or Carbine in several ways, air efficency, kick, consistency. They just need to be well taken care of, and it might take you a little time to get used to shooting a slide trigger.
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wich one is more upgradable? the trilogy or the 02? i cant really find any reviews on it

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Probably the 02. Those new ones have internal 3-ways, so no new ones, and no E-Blade ever. Go with the 02 if you want to have options.
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Definitely 02.  Completely interchangeable with all modern cocker parts, which gives you zillions of choices.
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Don't even waste your money on an Autococker, take it from someone who has owned one they're junk. You would be much better off with the A-5. The A-5 would be faster and alot more duable then an Autococker. Also with its no tool maintence design the maintence on the A-5 would be alot easier too.
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Unfortuantly my problems had nothing to do with my ability to work on the gun, my problem is with cockers trashy quality control issues. I never had to replace so many parts in such a short amount of time, and on top of that the cocker was very slow. Also the cocker needs over $1000 in upgrades to make it half decent and even after that there is still a good chance of the thing compleatly pooping out. I will never spend money and a tradhy gun like a cocker ever again.


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wow scarface...cockers are great guns. you make them sound very bad. and yeah, i love A-5's.

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what kind of barrel should i get for it? will i need one right away or should i get another upgrade first?

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The stock cocker barrel isn't bad, as stock barrels go.  You will want ot replace it, but it doesn't have to be your first upgrade.  I would recommend a new bolt and detent first.  A delrin bolt will reduce wear on the body.  A delrin detent will reduce wear on the bolt.  Then, if you are staying mech, a new 3-way is your best upgrade.  I recommend the Orracle 3-way.  Very short throw, very easy timing.

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Yah I just got my gun back from the shop and they got my trigger pull down to less than 1/8", which is really nice. Just get a good barrel, delrin bolt, and a hinge frame.
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Originally posted by slimjim23 slimjim23 wrote:

wow scarface...cockers are great guns. you make them sound very bad. and yeah, i love A-5's.

Thats because they are very bad guns. It would be alot easier just to buy a good stock electro gun, you would end up spending just about the same money anyway. By the time you put a million upgrades into the cocker to make it half decent you could have just gotten a Trix, Timmy, Cyborg, B2k with PDS or someother High-end elctro gun.



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would a jj barrel fit?
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I'm sure they make J&J barrels with Cocker threading. Look around and double check to make sure.


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Heh yeah, it amuses me because the only people that say cockers break and suck completely suck at taking care of them or fixing them.
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im also new to paintballing so i dont about taking care of guns and i heard they where hard to maintain
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Cockers are ridiculously easy to maintain.  What they do require, however, is a willingness to learn how they work, and a general enjoyment for all things mechanical.
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Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Heh yeah, it amuses me because the only people that say cockers break and suck completely suck at taking care of them or fixing them.

As I already said:Unfortuantly my problems had nothing to do with my ability to work on the gun, my problem is with cockers trashy quality control issues. I never had to replace so many parts in such a short amount of time, and on top of that the cocker was very slow. Also the cocker needs over $1000 in upgrades to make it half decent and even after that there is still a good chance of the thing compleatly pooping out. I will never spend money and a tradhy gun like a cocker ever again

Its not my fault that WGP makes poopy quality products. Things that broke on my cocker had nothing to do with me, the things that broke should not have BUT again due to the trashy quality and WGPs guns they would rather sell junk to people and line thier pockets then put an extra little money into quality control.


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your first upgrades would be a new bolt(delrin like stated above to reduce wear), barrel, and  3-way. keep the slider frame, when you get used to them, they can really rip.

delrin detents arent as useful as people say. many people believe their purpose is to prevent wear on the bolt... well, that wear on the bolt isnt bad at all, it wont effect the marker in any way. in fact, wgp recomends using the metal detents, e-orracles, karnys, etc come with metal detents. 
  so a delrin detent isnt necessary. their only advantage on the marker is that you can lower your micro reg pressure a bit because is puts less force/friction on the bolt.

and scarface, your the only one who dislikes cockers, so it was definatly the users malfunction, not the product.

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Originally posted by A-5 bunkerking A-5 bunkerking wrote:

keep the slider frame, when you get used to them, they can really rip.[quote]

Glad I'm not the only one that feels that way.  IMO hinge frames on mech cockers just don't make sense.    :)

[quote]delrin detents arent as useful as people say. many people believe their purpose is to prevent wear on the bolt... well, that wear on the bolt isnt bad at all, it wont effect the marker in any way. in fact, wgp recomends using the metal detents, e-orracles, karnys, etc come with metal detents. 

That's interesting.  I'll have to look into that.  Although, with your new detent, you also get a snazzy new detent cover.    :)

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Originally posted by A-5 bunkerking A-5 bunkerking wrote:

your first upgrades would be a new bolt(delrin like stated above to reduce wear), barrel, and  3-way. keep the slider frame, when you get used to them, they can really rip.

delrin detents arent as useful as people say. many people believe their purpose is to prevent wear on the bolt... well, that wear on the bolt isnt bad at all, it wont effect the marker in any way. in fact, wgp recomends using the metal detents, e-orracles, karnys, etc come with metal detents. 
  so a delrin detent isnt necessary. their only advantage on the marker is that you can lower your micro reg pressure a bit because is puts less force/friction on the bolt.

and scarface, your the only one who dislikes cockers, so it was definatly the users malfunction, not the product.

Well thanks for proving my point. If cockers are SOOO great then why do you need to upgrade and put so much money into them. Lets see maybe because they stink and thier trashy junk. As for the last part of what you said well thats a good excuse for  a company that makes a crappy gun.  if you look around the internet you'll see im not the only one that hates cockers. O and also if they're soo great then how come when I went to my local pro-shop the wall was loaded with people selling cockers.


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