Snipers

SawMan wrote: Darur, if you insist on continually refering to us pro-snipers as "newbs, 12-year olds, and campers", I insist that you do your homework. I, for one, am anything but a noob. I have been playing paintball for a total of 5 years. I CAN be accurate out to a rather long distance with my marker. However, I completely understand the difference between paintball and actual firearms. All paintball guns fire the same distance (barring flatlines, but as stated above they are not accurate past the normal distance) so that aspect of sniping is out of the argument. IMO people who sit in one spot, usually overwatching an OBJ, are a form of snipers. I will again use my team as an example. We have one man who imediately moves towards our OBJ and sets up a sniper post. He is armed with his marker, but more importantly, he has a radio. He reports the enemy's strengths/weaknesses back to the main force. Please tell me this is not recon. He will cover our forces if needed, but sometimes the sniper will go an entire day w/o shooting. I know that there will never be a true "Paintball Sniper", nor will I pretend I am one.

so wait... i don't know about you... but every time i play... we don't set up objectives.  we go to opposite sides of the field and say go.  we try to shoot eachother.  some of us run ahead and get into the action... some stay behind and move to the action. 

and how can your "sniper" have any fun if he is just laying down talking to you guys about whats going on.  if i went an entire day w/o shooting my gun... i'd go insane. 

jesus... just go out and shoot each other. 

Well, it seems that you believe "campers" are an ineffective role in the sport of paintball. That is amusing because there have been many instances where an unimportant "camper" has won the day. Without this support, a force would move in blind, oblivious to ambushes and the enemy's other defences. I have seen it happen, a force chewed up before they reach the objective. Now i know the probable reply "They are recon/scouts". So I will morph the term, how does "Scout-Sniper" sound to you?

I, for one, thoroughly enjoy this debate!

Well I didn't think that I was going to post here, but I suppose that I will anyway.

The 12 year old new guy running around with a red dot scope is not a sniper. That is a sterotype that came from many people who had never played the game before getting into it (Not sniper haters, the 12 year olds)

To me, being a sniper is not about shooting people at ecessive ranges. Being a sniper is the thrill of being assigned a task and getting it done at all costs. It's a style of play, and a way of life for many of us. One of my sniper friends is 62 years old. He is a far cry from an immature 12 year old.

While I find that in the average 15 minute game, attempting to snipe becomes rather pointless. However, I still enjoy these games because I get to practice other skills. During scenarios with much more time, I tend to snipe more. Being a sniper does not mean you have to have a ghille suit, flatline barrel, and scope. It does not mean someone who shoots from a concealed position. It is an idea that enhances the game to another dimension, and a mine expanded with new ideas never returns to it's original size.

I do not claim that I am better than you are. In all fairness, you are just as likely to get me out in a game as I am to get you. Let me tell you all why I decided to become a sniper in the first place.

When I was first starting, I was really into the idea of scenario games. I thought that was the coolest thing I had ever seen. Then I came across a sniper group and read their articles on the site. Some taught about general scenario information and tips, others were teaching tech tricks, and others were teaching personal tactics. The people were the friendliest and welcomed me and to this day I am still a prominent member in that group. We teach new players to not run around yelling "I have a red dot scope, I'm a sniper!" There are even people in our community that play in tournaments and other such games, yet still provide good information to the good of the community. The good nature show to one another in this community is what brought me to the role of a sniper.

You all can tell me that I am not a sniper if you'd like. I don't care. I can just as easily retaliate as hooligan has. I don't need to or really want to though, because I am fine with however people play out here at my field.

To me, being a sniper involves more off of the field than on the field. That is the difference between a sniper and some "12 year old immature prepubecent running around hiding screaming I have a scope so I'll be a sniper!".

Haha, so much for me not trying to get involved in this little argument, eh? Take care ya'll.

does neone know of a deal on a DM4 any where

Oh yes, I would like to add on out of shear bordem that it is POSSIBLE to calculate almost exactly where the ball will hit on a target using some rather simple physics. But this is not PRACTICAL in the field. I think I might actually try it out sometime just for kicks though in a lab type set up though. Of course you can never get it dead on everytime, but you can get it with a very slight margin of error.

Also, campers are sometimes necessary. They get annoying when they arn't necessary and they just stay back there and do nothing. When you have to defend a building from an onslaught of people though and you only have two people, not much you can do but sit tight and camp for a bit. Nothing wrong with a little productive camping in my opinion. Nothing worse than your camper being so far away from the action he doesn't even know when the game is over though.