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    Posted: 04 August 2004 at 4:17pm

Keep in mind I know almost nothing about auto cockers, but seeing how they uses extra gas to recock the gun in a different way than other simautos,

I was thinking that if a gun was made like and auto cocker but with an extra side rod attached to the cyclone’s “Feeder Ratchet” (instead of a spring), the loading speed could be much faster as well as upping the force of the Cyclone.

It’s just a thought, and I don’t every expect to see anything like this, but I have given it quit a bit of thought. It could work… Im working on a diagram. so you can see what I mean, It sould be up today

Here is the Diagram, just copy and pasted it.

http://img49.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img49&image=A-5Auto1.jpg



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Ummm the Cyclone feed is gas-operated...
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yes I know, but only half, what rely pushes the ball in to the gun in a spring.
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Wouldn't work. Cockers are closed bolt, so the rod that hits the cyclone would go back, and that's when the chamber is open, then when it went forward and pushed the cyclone to turn it, the bolt would be forward blocking the chamber, so the ball wouldn't get in. And the cyclone sucks anyways...
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I would disagree with you on the cyclone, I had the gun for
almost a year and only had a few ball chops and none of had
anything to do with the cyclone.

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He said it sucked becuase it isnt very practical for speedball because of the added side profile.

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Originally posted by LittleAnsel LittleAnsel wrote:

I would disagree with you on the cyclone, I had the gun for
almost a year and only had a few ball chops and none of had
anything to do with the cyclone.

Whear in my post do you see anything about the Cyclone choping paint??? Im just talking about makeing the alredy FAST cyclone, even faster.

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Originally posted by kwkmrorange kwkmrorange wrote:

He said it sucked becuase it isnt very practical for speedball because of the added side profile.

What are you talking about? Who said it suck...

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^^^Me.
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O, ok
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cockers dont impress me

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^^Agreed, they're not all that great, They are nice guns, but more mid level. There's better out there.
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ok. well brag about how grate of a player you are in some other post. Get back on topic!
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Diagram just added ^^^ at the bottom of the post

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Originally posted by jeep 98 custom jeep 98 custom wrote:

^^Agreed, they're not all that great, They are nice guns, but more mid level. There's better out there.

hey i feel insulted!! I use a 2k4 prostock cocker, when i get my worrblade and kaner kit it will be just as good as your shocker

i love cockers, they are so accurate and just plain cool

erm, eh, well, ok, your right, i am sorry Enos, i dont know what i ever did, but you have jurasdiction over the forum, so, i am sorry for all i have done to offen you Enos

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erm, eh, well, ok, your right, i am sorry Enos, i dont know what i ever did, but you have jurasdiction over the forum, so, i am sorry for all i have done to offen you Enos

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Originally posted by spydero99 spydero99 wrote:

Originally posted by jeep 98 custom jeep 98 custom wrote:

^^Agreed, they're not all that great, They are nice guns, but more mid level. There's better out there.

hey i feel insulted!! I use a 2k4 prostock cocker, when i get my worrblade and kaner kit it will be just as good as your shocker

i love cockers, they are so accurate and just plain cool



In no way did I mean to insult you, I'm just saying, they're better out there. Cocker's are too complex, have way to much to go wrong. And no matter what you do to it, it's still going to be bigger, heavier, and have more kick than my Shocker. Plus, my Shocker doesn't leak .
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Wouldn't work. Cockers are closed bolt, so the rod that hits the cyclone would go back, and that's when the chamber is open, then when it went forward and pushed the cyclone to turn it, the bolt would be forward blocking the chamber, so the ball wouldn't get in. And the cyclone sucks anyways...
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boo cockers. what if a ball hits th tube then ur screwed. the those rams and stuff get heavy. Im gald im gong to get a 03 shocker. thought i liek the sound the cocker makes
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Theres no way that would work. If you split air coming off the 3-way like that, the cyclone is going to suck so much air, the cocking ram will be starved. You would have to increase pneumatics pressure to accomodate, and that would probably blow hoses.
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